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Message 75418 - Posted: 1 Jun 2023, 14:13:07 UTC - in response to Message 75417.  

easier way.

Google: "BOINC Client Config"

click the first link.

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Message 75479 - Posted: 11 Jun 2023, 6:55:33 UTC - in response to Message 75418.  

easier way.

Google: "BOINC Client Config"

click the first link.

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Excellent - never thought about this possibility.

But, as I said somewhere before, I (personally) sort of like/prefer the long way.
It costs time, but I always enjoy finding some other interesting things along the way ...

Have a nice Sunday

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Message 75515 - Posted: 14 Jun 2023, 13:25:10 UTC - in response to Message 75397.  

Thank you. I improved the CPU usage using your method.
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Message 75901 - Posted: 23 Jun 2023, 17:16:40 UTC

Seems to me that n body tasks are too big to run. Mine usually take about 2 days and often die before finishing; Is this the nature of the beast?
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Message 75902 - Posted: 23 Jun 2023, 17:36:04 UTC - in response to Message 75901.  

Seems to me that n body tasks are too big to run. Mine usually take about 2 days and often die before finishing; Is this the nature of the beast?
Are you using less than 100% of CPU time?
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Message 75908 - Posted: 23 Jun 2023, 18:14:02 UTC - in response to Message 75902.  
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Seems to me that n body tasks are too big to run. Mine usually take about 2 days and often die before finishing; Is this the nature of the beast?
Are you using less than 100% of CPU time?


I was using 75 on percent cpu time, but just changed to 100. I have a i3-8130u 2.2GHz with Turbo Boost to 3.4GHz. Boinc shows 1 cpu with 4 cores. I was concerned about temperature as it's a laptop. Using the Intel GPU for running Einstein.
Btw, the wu's started at 8 min and 6 secs and 10 min and 10 secs and are now at 18 hours and over a day.

Application
Milkyway@home N-Body Simulation 1.82 (mt)
Name
de_nbody_02_27_2023_v182_pal5__data__6_1685648250_144011
State
Running
Received
6/23/2023 1:24:33 PM
Report deadline
7/5/2023 1:24:33 PM
Resources
2 CPUs
Estimated computation size
5,916 GFLOPs
CPU time
00:37:12
CPU time since checkpoint
00:00:45
Elapsed time
00:47:44
Estimated time remaining
1d 06:03:51
Fraction done
2.578%
Virtual memory size
12.88 MB
Working set size
16.86 MB
Directory
slots/1
Process ID
3528
Progress rate
3.240% per hour
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milkyway_nbody_1.82_windows_x86_64__mt.exe
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Message 75909 - Posted: 23 Jun 2023, 19:32:48 UTC - in response to Message 75908.  

Seems to me that n body tasks are too big to run. Mine usually take about 2 days and often die before finishing; Is this the nature of the beast?
Are you using less than 100% of CPU time?


I was using 75 on percent cpu time, but just changed to 100. I have a i3-8130u 2.2GHz with Turbo Boost to 3.4GHz. Boinc shows 1 cpu with 4 cores. I was concerned about temperature as it's a laptop. Using the Intel GPU for running Einstein.


You do know that the Intel gpu and Intel I3-8130u are the exact same thing...right?

Personally I would turn off the Einstein gpu tasks and run Einstein cpu tasks instead and use an app_config.xml file to limit Milky Way and Einstein to 1 task at a time each.
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Message 75913 - Posted: 23 Jun 2023, 20:08:18 UTC - in response to Message 75909.  

Seems to me that n body tasks are too big to run. Mine usually take about 2 days and often die before finishing; Is this the nature of the beast?
Are you using less than 100% of CPU time?


I was using 75 on percent cpu time, but just changed to 100. I have a i3-8130u 2.2GHz with Turbo Boost to 3.4GHz. Boinc shows 1 cpu with 4 cores. I was concerned about temperature as it's a laptop. Using the Intel GPU for running Einstein.


You do know that the Intel gpu and Intel I3-8130u are the exact same thing...right?

Personally I would turn off the Einstein gpu tasks and run Einstein cpu tasks instead and use an app_config.xml file to limit Milky Way and Einstein to 1 task at a time each.


Yes, I know that the same chip is the cpu and the gpu, but they are two components and should be able to run independently to a point.
I've not found the Einstein cpu task to be much better time wise than the Milkyway, so I just wanted to see if I could get one of them to work with the cpu. Seems that they are both very demanding task wise.

Thanks for the input. I will continue to see what I can get to work, one way or the other. Wish separation tasks wouldn't have ended, it's giving me a headache.
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Message 75914 - Posted: 23 Jun 2023, 20:48:33 UTC - in response to Message 75909.  
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Mikey,

Can you show me how to make Einstein run only one unit with all 4 cores?
So far, I've got 4 wu's running on 4 cores and each should take 21 hours. Unfortunately, I have been running them for over 10 minutes and it has only taken 10 minutes off the est. time.

Thanks, Allen
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Message 75924 - Posted: 23 Jun 2023, 23:00:00 UTC - in response to Message 75914.  

Mikey,

Can you show me how to make Einstein run only one unit with all 4 cores?
So far, I've got 4 wu's running on 4 cores and each should take 21 hours. Unfortunately, I have been running them for over 10 minutes and it has only taken 10 minutes off the est. time.

Thanks, Allen


No because they are not multi-threaded tasks, you might try running only 3 tasks at a time, 75% of your cpu's, and see if they run faster.
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Message 75927 - Posted: 23 Jun 2023, 23:33:54 UTC - in response to Message 75924.  

Thanks, I'll try that, but I kinda doubt it will work. Let you know if it does though.
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Message 75930 - Posted: 24 Jun 2023, 3:14:12 UTC - in response to Message 75924.  

I can hardly believe this. I stopped two of the wu's and even though they show stopped, their time running and their estimated time continue keeping pace with the ones that are still running.
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Message 75936 - Posted: 24 Jun 2023, 10:42:14 UTC - in response to Message 75930.  

I can hardly believe this. I stopped two of the wu's and even though they show stopped, their time running and their estimated time continue keeping pace with the ones that are still running.


I don't think I've ever seen that before, is it still doing it? How did you stop them? When I stop a task I suspend it and it stops, some of my pc's are maxed out more than others so it can take more than a few seconds to recognize I've suspended them but never as long as a minute.
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Message 75943 - Posted: 24 Jun 2023, 17:25:05 UTC - in response to Message 75936.  
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I can hardly believe this. I stopped two of the wu's and even though they show stopped, their time running and their estimated time continue keeping pace with the ones that are still running.


I don't think I've ever seen that before, is it still doing it? How did you stop them? When I stop a task I suspend it and it stops, some of my pc's are maxed out more than others so it can take more than a few seconds to recognize I've suspended them but never as long as a minute.



I stopped them by setting the run preference to 50%. They are all still showing that they are running, even though 2 of them say they are not. Really weird. I'm pretty sure that if I stopped them with suspend that they would really stop. Shows they have been running for almost 20 hours, with about an hour to go.
As expected, suspend does shift all computing to the still running cores.
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Message 75952 - Posted: 25 Jun 2023, 10:44:24 UTC - in response to Message 75943.  

I can hardly believe this. I stopped two of the wu's and even though they show stopped, their time running and their estimated time continue keeping pace with the ones that are still running.


I don't think I've ever seen that before, is it still doing it? How did you stop them? When I stop a task I suspend it and it stops, some of my pc's are maxed out more than others so it can take more than a few seconds to recognize I've suspended them but never as long as a minute.



I stopped them by setting the run preference to 50%. They are all still showing that they are running, even though 2 of them say they are not. Really weird. I'm pretty sure that if I stopped them with suspend that they would really stop. Shows they have been running for almost 20 hours, with about an hour to go.
As expected, suspend does shift all computing to the still running cores.


Yes Suspend is the way to go to save the resources
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Message 75955 - Posted: 25 Jun 2023, 17:32:21 UTC - in response to Message 75086.  
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This was posted in the OS-specific board but no answer showed: why is there no Mac version?

Another option would be to Docker it, as I know BOINC supports that (Cosmology@home has used docker for years, though that project now seems kaput). Should be straightforward for a CPU-only application.

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Message 75957 - Posted: 25 Jun 2023, 18:30:24 UTC - in response to Message 75955.  

Cosmology@home has used docker for years, though that project now seems kaput

Cosmology@home is not dead [yet] I still get work from it , though if you want to post on the forum or alter account settings you/we have to log in via console/commandline [press F12] workaround , other than that its a boincless zombie .
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Message 75965 - Posted: 25 Jun 2023, 23:19:14 UTC - in response to Message 75957.  

Cosmology@home has used docker for years, though that project now seems kaput

Cosmology@home is not dead [yet]

I still get work from it , though if you want to post on the forum or alter account settings you/we have to log in via console/commandline [press F12] workaround , other than that its a boincless zombie .


Lots of people still get work from Cosmology and yes the Admins seem to be having a very difficult time keeping the website up and running on a consistent basis.
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Message 75975 - Posted: 26 Jun 2023, 20:13:20 UTC - in response to Message 75086.  

hi,
not receiving any work units from N-Body. Separation were last units received.
how do I get the n-body units?
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Message 75981 - Posted: 27 Jun 2023, 10:37:16 UTC - in response to Message 75975.  

hi,
not receiving any work units from N-Body. Separation were last units received.
how do I get the n-body units?


As long as you were not running gpu tasks nothing at all, this page https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/prefs.php?subset=project shows that there is no selection for Separation tasks anymore just the NBody tasks.
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