Separation Application Shutting Down on Tuesday, Jun 20th
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Send message Joined: 20 May 21 Posts: 20 Credit: 1,698,462 RAC: 2,046   
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What about tasks that are completed but awaiting validation? S.Gaber Oldsmar, FL |
 Marcin Send message Joined: 18 Jun 09 Posts: 35 Credit: 11,283,481 RAC: 6,666  
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i happened to check the server state website and it shows that only 54 separation tasks unsent while in the morning it was close to 10 thousand, is this a sign of separation finally winding down perhaps?  |
Keith Myers Send message Joined: 24 Jan 11 Posts: 708 Credit: 544,518,946 RAC: 122,853    
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What about tasks that are completed but awaiting validation? Who knows?? 
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PDW Send message Joined: 30 Apr 15 Posts: 11 Credit: 237,179,754 RAC: 52,094  
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What about tasks that are completed but awaiting validation? Well Tom said:
Can't imagine that just throwing work away that doesn't get validated is going to enthuse people to stick around. |
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Marcin Send message Joined: 18 Jun 09 Posts: 35 Credit: 11,283,481 RAC: 6,666
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i think one way not to waste cycles for now is to set milkyway at "request no new work" and wait till it gets sorted i guess? |
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PDW Send message Joined: 30 Apr 15 Posts: 11 Credit: 237,179,754 RAC: 52,094
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i think one way not to waste cycles for now is to set milkyway at "request no new work" and wait till it gets sorted i guess? I came to the forum to find out why tasks are still being sent out, their News item said "so we are going to shut down the Separation project in the near future", there is no suggestion, or even a hint, that users should have to set NNT. There will be many who don't come here and find that the project may be wasting their time and money. They really need to clarify what is happening, stopping work generation for Separation is the simplest way to shut this application down. Do they not know how to do that ? |
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Marcin Send message Joined: 18 Jun 09 Posts: 35 Credit: 11,283,481 RAC: 6,666
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Remember this Project is run by a rotating set of college grad students and one Professor that is very busy doing other things most of the time and who himself has only been doing it for a short time, that means that the institutional knowledge that most projects have is not there at Milky Way. Yes they do okay with what they have but they don't seem to take advantage of the Boinc Forum for Admins either and instead try to figure it out on their own.I know. That's another reason to simply stop creating new work and let BOINC take care of the tasks in progress. perhaps, as link said they seem to not use the admin BOINC forums and work on their own with limited staff |
 Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 2  
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P Hucker typed "no" instead of "on"You forgot to subtract the leap second. The above was double spaced between sentences, I apologise for the forum software ruining my post. |
Bill F Send message Joined: 4 Jul 09 Posts: 87 Credit: 16,796,607 RAC: 2,941
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Update... For people looking for Astrophysics related projects for their GPU's ... Einstein has already been mentioned as a home for GPU's And Asteroids@home has NVIDIA app's for the following system groups Microsoft Windows (98 or later) running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU Microsoft Windows running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU Linux running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU Enjoy Bill F |
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Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 2
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wonder if they cant shutdown separation because someone forgot the root password or something like that xdI got fired for that. I'd started work one week ago, my boss had not told me the password, and he went on holiday. The server went terribly wrong one morning and I'd slept in. I got fired because I wasn't there to fix it, which I couldn't have anyway. The above was double spaced between sentences, I apologise for the forum software ruining my post. |
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Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 2
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what went down is possibly this:The server is HAL based. It didn't take kindly to being stopped from doing it's favourite thing. "What are you doing Tom? This is highly irregular. There is no apparent core overheat." The above was double spaced between sentences, I apologise for the forum software ruining my post. |
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Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 2
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i happened to check the server state website and it shows that only 54 separation tasks unsent while in the morning it was close to 10 thousand, is this a sign of separation finally winding down perhaps?Nah I saw that yesterday temporarily, it just means it's busy. The above was double spaced between sentences, I apologise for the forum software ruining my post. |
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Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 2
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Can't imagine99% of people won't read this forum. They just connect, crunch, come here if something doesn't work. I'm only here because I happened to check in the notices of Boinc (which is very rare). The above was double spaced between sentences, I apologise for the forum software ruining my post. |
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Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 2
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i think one way not to waste cycles for now is to set milkyway at "request no new work" and wait till it gets sorted i guess?Just untick these two so you only get Nbody.  The above was double spaced between sentences, I apologise for the forum software ruining my post. |
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Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 2
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Update... For people looking for Astrophysics related projects for their GPU's ...Pointless as it's no faster than a CPU which is cheaper and uses less power. Put GPUs on projects where they run 50 times faster. The above was double spaced between sentences, I apologise for the forum software ruining my post. |
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Send message Joined: 12 Jun 10 Posts: 57 Credit: 6,163,587 RAC: 7 
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Update... For people looking for Astrophysics related projects for their GPU's ...Pointless as it's no faster than a CPU which is cheaper and uses less power. Put GPUs on projects where they run 50 times faster. Mr Hucker that's a shame you find it pointless. I find tasks to run much faster on my GPU compared to my CPU |
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Bill F Send message Joined: 4 Jul 09 Posts: 87 Credit: 16,796,607 RAC: 2,941
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Update... For people looking for Astrophysics related projects for their GPU's ...Pointless as it's no faster than a CPU which is cheaper and uses less power. Put GPUs on projects where they run 50 times faster. My old GTX 1060 turns an Asteroid task in about 26 minutes and it is ancient. While I also run Einstein and Universe and Milkyway .. Asteroids deserves clock cycles as their science has value too. |
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Send message Joined: 12 Jun 10 Posts: 57 Credit: 6,163,587 RAC: 7
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In terms of the backlog of results waiting to be validated it would be sped up if would send out jobs with a higher number then _0 on them |
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Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 2
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Mr Hucker that's a shame you find it pointless. I find tasks to run much faster on my GPU compared to my CPUHow much faster? I can't see any CPU tasks on your history to make a comparison. And are you accounting for the CPU being able to do 24 at a time? The above was double spaced between sentences, I apologise for the forum software ruining my post. |
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Send message Joined: 5 Jul 11 Posts: 990 Credit: 376,143,149 RAC: 2
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Asteroids deserves clock cycles as their science has value too.Agreed, which is why I stick it on my CPUs. But since the GPUs can go vastly faster on other projects, that's where they go. Why give a project to your GPU which it's not particularly good at? The above was double spaced between sentences, I apologise for the forum software ruining my post. |
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