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Message 75846 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 0:59:22 UTC - in response to Message 75842.  

In terms of the backlog of results waiting to be validated it would be sped up if would send out jobs with a higher number then _0 on them
They're probably already returned and we're waiting on the server getting round to comparing them.
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Message 75850 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 2:02:46 UTC

How about starting new thread under the Number Crunching section to discuss all this riveting banter? Let's leave all the News threads for the project admins to post their info so it doesn't get lost in off topic discussions. Don't reply. Just move it to a different thread not in the News section.
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Message 75852 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 2:39:49 UTC - in response to Message 75850.  
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How about starting new thread under the Number Crunching section to discuss all this riveting banter? Let's leave all the News threads for the project admins to post their info so it doesn't get lost in off topic discussions. Don't reply. Just move it to a different thread not in the News section.
The first person to go off topic could make a new thread elsewhere and post the link to it as a reply. But would anyone bother? I suppose the second or third could do it if not already done, and hopefully as people see the link they follow it. Probably most wouldn't. Whenever an admin has shifted posts and emailed everyone a link to the new thread, the new thread has er.... Petered out.
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Message 75853 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 10:34:12 UTC - in response to Message 75827.  
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wonder if they cant shutdown separation because someone forgot the root password or something like that xd


I got fired for that. I'd started work one week ago, my boss had not told me the password, and he went on holiday. The server went terribly wrong one morning and I'd slept in. I got fired because I wasn't there to fix it, which I couldn't have anyway.


And here I got a huge thank you from my boss because the guy before me didn't write down any of his passwords so no one could get into any of his databases and he wasn't returning any calls or emails he was fired so I probably wouldn't have either., I made a copy of the databases, took them home and found a password cracker online and got right in. I went back to the work the next day and used the passwords I'd 'discovered' and they all worked great.

I just now checked the Server Status page and it says this:
Milkyway@home Separation 7770 1341506
Milkyway@home N-Body Simulation 2814 175474

So it seems that unless they are handling resends they haven't shut much down yet.
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Message 75855 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 15:26:54 UTC - in response to Message 75826.  

Asteroids@home has NVIDIA app's for the following system groups

Microsoft Windows (98 or later) running on an Intel x86-compatible CPU
Microsoft Windows running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU
Linux running on an AMD x86_64 or Intel EM64T CPU
However only for cards with compute capability 2.0 and up, applies also to the cuda55 application.
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Message 75856 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 15:34:54 UTC - in response to Message 75853.  

I just now checked the Server Status page and it says this:
Milkyway@home Separation 7770 1341506
Milkyway@home N-Body Simulation 2814 175474

So it seems that unless they are handling resends they haven't shut much down yet.
They haven't shut down anything, the server is just struggling because of those 2.3M waiting for validation.
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Message 75857 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 15:37:49 UTC - in response to Message 75856.  

is this the sign of them finally doing something or just random accident ?
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Message 75858 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 15:40:19 UTC - in response to Message 75857.  

See my post above.
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Message 75860 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 18:09:54 UTC - in response to Message 75853.  

And here I got a huge thank you from my boss because the guy before me didn't write down any of his passwords so no one could get into any of his databases and he wasn't returning any calls or emails he was fired so I probably wouldn't have either., I made a copy of the databases, took them home and found a password cracker online and got right in. I went back to the work the next day and used the passwords I'd 'discovered' and they all worked great.
He can't have protected them very well. I can't even find anyone who can crack a zip file!
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Message 75861 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 18:10:56 UTC - in response to Message 75856.  

They haven't shut down anything, the server is just struggling because of those 2.3M waiting for validation.
Maybe they can't work out how to turn it off and are hoping it will crash?
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Message 75868 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 21:19:52 UTC

Uh, yeah, so I just turned off Separation. Had every intention of doing it on Tuesday and then I forgot. Had a bunch of forms and other urgent things to fill out before my dissertation defense tomorrow.

Anyways, we didn't forget the root password! :)
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Message 75869 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 21:20:41 UTC

But please keep me updated on what you all see from your end, I've never turned off a BOINC project before so I'm curious if what I did actually shut it off or not.
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Message 75871 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 21:25:12 UTC - in response to Message 75869.  
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But please keep me updated on what you all see from your end, I've never turned off a BOINC project before so I'm curious if what I did actually shut it off or not.
Well there's hardly anything to send in the server status, for Nbody either. Hope you didn't shut both off.....

And a work fetch gives "No tasks are available for Milkyway@home N-Body Simulation"

Working now, just a busy server I guess.
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Message 75873 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 21:44:11 UTC - in response to Message 75869.  

But please keep me updated on what you all see from your end, I've never turned off a BOINC project before so I'm curious if what I did actually shut it off or not.


since it looks like you nuked the separation validator, what's going to happen to those ~2.4 million separation tasks waiting for validation?

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Message 75874 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 21:51:15 UTC - in response to Message 75873.  

#DELET I'm guessing since there seems to be no record of it anywhere. but on the plus side the server shouldn't crash anymore right ?
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Message 75875 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 22:01:16 UTC - in response to Message 75873.  

since it looks like you nuked the separation validator, what's going to happen to those ~2.4 million separation tasks waiting for validation?
Legend has it they weren't going to use them anyway.
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Message 75876 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 22:11:37 UTC - in response to Message 75875.  

server status now only shows n-body
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Message 75877 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 22:14:22 UTC - in response to Message 75876.  

server status now only shows n-body
Looks like he did it! Do keep us updated on how your dissertation defence goes.
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Message 75878 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 22:15:39 UTC

And have to flush all separation tasks from DB.
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Message 75879 - Posted: 22 Jun 2023, 22:26:32 UTC

And in progress tasks weren't aborted by server, so people who still have some will be running them and then send them into the void I guess...
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