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Message 8264 - Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 13:22:03 UTC

Is there a new faster application available?

I've found by accident that user NetMonitoring is delivering results with a runtime of 400 seconds each.
Task info shows he's running application version 0.71.
Official application version is 0.07.

Anyone any idea where to get this faster app?
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Message 8265 - Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 13:24:23 UTC - in response to Message 8264.  
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Probably from that user. Would be a custom app.
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Message 8267 - Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 15:49:35 UTC - in response to Message 8264.  

If you were using Linux, petros or I could help you out... ;-)

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Message 8273 - Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 20:53:20 UTC

Has anyone made a faster app for XP?
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Message 8280 - Posted: 12 Jan 2009, 23:59:25 UTC - in response to Message 8273.  

Well, NetMonitoring was running the app on a Windows XP machine
according to the Computer entry of the task id.

Obviously there *is* a faster app for XP out somewhere ...
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Message 8281 - Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 0:05:26 UTC

Well I suppose I should add: One that someone is willing to share?
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Message 8292 - Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 23:04:16 UTC - in response to Message 8281.  
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Well I suppose I should add: One that someone is willing to share?

Curious that nowbody linked it already, we have them ;)
Their are SSE,SSE2,SSE3,SSSE3 and SSE4.1 optimized apps already available, you just have to read in our forum ;)
http://www.planet3dnow.de/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=353616
The P3D Member Gipsel and twodee made apps with following extensions:
with SSE a WU take ~1500sec
with SSE2 ~400sec
with SSE3 ~300sec
with SSE4.1 ~200sec
all on a C2Q@3ghz
because Gipsel and twodee made thier app independtly from each other their are sometimes 2 versions per apps. their are aproximatly the same with minor differences in speed.
you may also need a app-info.xml file

SSE Version for older PCs:
http://www.file-upload.net/download-1319985/MW_SSEV2.zip.html
and here
http://139.30.40.11/Milkyway_SSE.zip

SSE2:
http://www.2shared.com/file/4437840/f43e8ff7/MW-SSE2.html
and here
http://www.file-upload.net/download-1311757/astronomy_sse2_app.exe.html
SSE3:
http://www.file-upload.net/download-1319985/MW_SSEV2.zip.html
SSE2+SSE3
http://www.file-upload.net/download-1320653/MW.rar.html

the sse4.1 is not availible at the moment

Gispel is working on a GPU-app für ATI cards. he is searching volunteers for testing his GPU-app under win64 with ATI cards. if some wants to test it, please pm gipsel in the p3d board

If the GPU-app is working a WU could be crunched in 20sek (but 1 cpu core would probably be used also
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Message 8294 - Posted: 13 Jan 2009, 23:31:28 UTC - in response to Message 8292.  

Thanks for the links.

How do I figure out which I have? I would guess sse or sse2. My pc's a P4 xp.
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Message 8295 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 0:05:53 UTC - in response to Message 8294.  

Thanks for the links.

How do I figure out which I have? I would guess sse or sse2. My pc's a P4 xp.

if its a pre-Prescot P4 take the SSE2, if it is a Prescot oder cedar mill take the SSE3.
or just use cpu-z to look which extensions you can run.
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Message 8296 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 0:08:10 UTC - in response to Message 8294.  
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Thanks for the links.

How do I figure out which I have? I would guess sse or sse2. My pc's a P4 xp.


CPU-Z will tell you!

Let me know when you find one of these fast/optimised MW clients for Windows and the link, please.
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Message 8297 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 0:19:01 UTC

Thanks sandro, your links are much appreciated.

I've only just started to try them out and can see everything ticking away faster. What was indicating at over 1 hour to complete is now showing at under 40 minutes. Not very scientific I know, but they seem to be doing the trick...


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Message 8298 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 0:29:38 UTC - in response to Message 8296.  

[quote]Thanks for the links.

Let me know when you find one of these fast/optimised MW clients for Windows and the link, please.

all of the apps i gave the link are for 32 and 64bit windows
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Message 8299 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 0:37:32 UTC
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I think I'm missing something. Boinc wants to keep downloading the official app. I added an app_info file I converted from milksops app. And now I'm getting "no work", so I can't tell if I did it right.

Here's what I have in that file:
<app_info>
<app>
<name>astronomy</name>
</app>
<file_info>
<name>astronomy_sse2_app.exe</name>
<executable/>
</file_info>
<app_version>
<app_name>astronomy</app_name>
<version_num>1</version_num>
<file_ref>
<file_name>astronomy_sse2_app.exe</file_name>
<main_program/>
</file_ref>
</app_version>
<app_info>
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Message 8300 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 0:44:03 UTC
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banditwolf, there is an app_info file for all SSE, SSE2 and SSE3 in the downloads (one download has it missing, but all can be found in sandro's links - you don't have to make any app_info files)

I'm using all 3 and they all seem to be working OK.

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Message 8301 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 0:48:45 UTC - in response to Message 8300.  

banditwolf, there is an app_info file for all SSE, SSE2 and SSE3 in the downloads (one download has it missing, but all can be found in sandro's links - you don't have to make any app_info files)


I went with the 2nd sse2, only the exe file. The first is a .rar file. I don't know how to extract that one.
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Message 8302 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 0:53:52 UTC - in response to Message 8301.  

banditwolf, there is an app_info file for all SSE, SSE2 and SSE3 in the downloads (one download has it missing, but all can be found in sandro's links - you don't have to make any app_info files)


I went with the 2nd sse2, only the exe file. The first is a .rar file. I don't know how to extract that one.

Cripes! get winzip or winrar quick - WUs that took over an hour an hour ago are now rolling off at under 20 minutes on my core 2 duo.


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Message 8303 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 0:54:10 UTC

http://www.file-upload.net/download-1319985/MW_SSEV2.zip.html
SSE2+SSE3
http://www.file-upload.net/download-1320653/MW.rar.html

these I get what looks to be an error saying too many requests.
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Message 8304 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 1:01:07 UTC - in response to Message 8302.  

Cripes! get winzip or winrar quick - WUs that took over an hour an hour ago are now rolling off at under 20 minutes on my core 2 duo.


Didn't realize there was a winrar. I have winzip. I undid that file and put it in. I am still getting "no work", I think that is a response to my aborted files.

Thanks for the help. When I get work I'll add the times.
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Message 8305 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 1:01:13 UTC - in response to Message 8303.  

http://www.file-upload.net/download-1319985/MW_SSEV2.zip.html
SSE2+SSE3
http://www.file-upload.net/download-1320653/MW.rar.html

these I get what looks to be an error saying too many requests.

I'm not surprised. They'll be a bit of a rush on for these I expect ;) I'm down to a shade over 8 minutes for a WU that just a little while ago was taking an hour and 8 minutes


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Message 8307 - Posted: 14 Jan 2009, 5:13:38 UTC - in response to Message 8292.  
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Gipsel is working on a GPU-app für ATI cards. he is searching volunteers for testing his GPU-app under win64 with ATI cards. if some wants to test it, please pm gipsel in the p3d board

If the GPU-app is working a WU could be crunched in 20sek (but 1 cpu core would probably be used also

Actually, that's nothing finished yet and the 20 seconds are just a first very rough estimate for a HD4870 based on still buggy code I have not much time working on. Furthermore, there are already some volunteers for testing.

So please, don't bombard me with PMs!


Thanks.

PS:
Why the hell the BOINC client only recognizes CUDA devices as accelerators in the moment? Give ATI a chance! Their cards have superior performance with double precision. NVidia cards can hardly beat a good quad core with doubles!

PS2, note to the project:
The credit limit in its current incarnation is not going to work with a GPU-App, as there will be very little CPU time spent on a WU, on which the limit bases. You should think about it and prepare something! Just in case I (or someone else) get this thing running. How about really fixed and adequately scaled credits without a limit at all?
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