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Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
If the problem is with the stars files, then how come I can take the stars files from a machine not reporting any errors and copy them to another machine that has about 50% errors and still have the same problem? Well, then that probably isn't the issue :P Are you using an optimized app? I'm wondering if something went wrong with them for whatever reason when the database got corrupted. Again, it's pretty hard for me to debug an optimized application because they aren't something we've released, so it could be hardware problems or any other thing. One thing I think might be happening is that when you use the stock app the boinc client tries to verify the downloaded workunit files with a checksum, and I'm pretty sure the client wont do this for an optimized application. So what might be happening is some of the workunit files might not be downloading completely or correctly, and the optimized app runs on them anyways and errors out. |
Send message Joined: 27 Aug 07 Posts: 647 Credit: 27,592,547 RAC: 0 |
... One thing I think might be happening is that when you use the stock app the boinc client tries to verify the downloaded workunit files with a checksum, and I'm pretty sure the client wont do this for an optimized application. So what might be happening is some of the workunit files might not be downloading completely or correctly, and the optimized app runs on them anyways and errors out. But I have tested with both the standard and the opti app and got the same download/checksum errors no matter which app! And the client always tried to verify the checksums. I think the errors might happen because some "star" files are downloaded multiple times for different WU types. Maybe then the checksums don't fit? However these errors have stopped for me now. Lovely greetings, Cori |
Send message Joined: 15 Aug 08 Posts: 163 Credit: 3,876,869 RAC: 0 |
If the problem is with the stars files, then how come I can take the stars files from a machine not reporting any errors and copy them to another machine that has about 50% errors and still have the same problem? Travis... A lot of users were reported the same with stock app... Don't try to use the excuse of third party apps... The problem is in your side, and all of us know it... Logan. BOINC FAQ Service (Ahora, también disponible en Español/Now available in Spanish) |
Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
Travis... A lot of users were reported the same with stock app... Don't try to use the excuse of third party apps... The problem is in your side, and all of us know it... I'm not blaming 3rd party apps, I'm just trying to narrow down where the error is. You're always so negative man :P Our database settings got lost when everything went down, what I'm thinking is that we might have some kind of error where it might be dropping connections early or something along those lines, which is all i can think of that would be making the application crash, considering the applications were working fine before, and that we're not doing anything new when we're generating the workunits... |
Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
One more question to everyone. Is it still just happening on stripe 82, or happening with 79 and 86 as well? |
Send message Joined: 27 Aug 07 Posts: 647 Credit: 27,592,547 RAC: 0 |
One more question to everyone. Is it still just happening on stripe 82, or happening with 79 and 86 as well? I had problems with 82 and 79, see also my older post below. ;-) Lovely greetings, Cori |
Send message Joined: 15 Aug 08 Posts: 163 Credit: 3,876,869 RAC: 0 |
I can confirm 79 and 82. Logan. BOINC FAQ Service (Ahora, también disponible en Español/Now available in Spanish) |
Send message Joined: 15 Aug 08 Posts: 163 Credit: 3,876,869 RAC: 0 |
Travis... A lot of users were reported the same with stock app... Don't try to use the excuse of third party apps... The problem is in your side, and all of us know it... And I'm not a negative man... I only explain to you in what side is the problem... Say to the volunteers 'Restart the project' or 'detach an attach the project' (with all the disturbs and inconveniences to the users) without check if the origin of the trouble is in your side, and give the gilty to the third party apps without any reason... Well... What I must to think of you...? :) Best regards Logan. BOINC FAQ Service (Ahora, también disponible en Español/Now available in Spanish) |
Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
Travis... A lot of users were reported the same with stock app... Don't try to use the excuse of third party apps... The problem is in your side, and all of us know it... We're checking on our side as well, it's just not an easy thing to pinpoint. Hence asking users to try a detach and see if the problem is still happening. |
Send message Joined: 12 Nov 07 Posts: 2425 Credit: 524,164 RAC: 0 |
Myself I have only had the one group of units that had and error I know of so far. I think they were all the same type. Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected? If it makes sense, DON'T do it. |
Send message Joined: 27 Aug 07 Posts: 647 Credit: 27,592,547 RAC: 0 |
*EEK* Just found this one (after several hours without problems): stderr out ---> http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=2328011 EDIT I think (read: hope) this was the only WU with download problems at this time... phew! :-))) Lovely greetings, Cori |
Send message Joined: 3 Jan 09 Posts: 270 Credit: 124,346 RAC: 0 |
I am using an opti win32 app (zslip) and am processing s70, s82, & s86 without any errors whatsoever. They are all giving valid results and granting credit. I think if it was a system wide server issue, there would be a lot more people complaining. It seems to just be a handful of people having the problem. |
Send message Joined: 15 Jul 08 Posts: 288 Credit: 5,474,012 RAC: 0 |
I am using an opti win32 app (zslip) and am processing s70, s82, & s86 without any errors whatsoever. They are all giving valid results and granting credit. I think if it was a system wide server issue, there would be a lot more people complaining. It seems to just be a handful of people having the problem. I think since the server crash, there has been some change in the server settings on MW's side, which is causing some to have problems with downloads, specifically the star files....and if they are not downloaded correctly, all WUs associated with them will error out.... That is the problem in a nutshell, I think. I am the Kittyman. Please visit and give a Click for Seti City. |
Send message Joined: 22 Feb 08 Posts: 260 Credit: 57,387,048 RAC: 0 |
I am using an opti win32 app (zslip) and am processing s70, s82, & s86 without any errors whatsoever. They are all giving valid results and granting credit. I think if it was a system wide server issue, there would be a lot more people complaining. It seems to just be a handful of people having the problem. with the insta-purge on most people won't see their results error out... mic. |
Send message Joined: 30 Aug 07 Posts: 2046 Credit: 26,480 RAC: 0 |
I am using an opti win32 app (zslip) and am processing s70, s82, & s86 without any errors whatsoever. They are all giving valid results and granting credit. I think if it was a system wide server issue, there would be a lot more people complaining. It seems to just be a handful of people having the problem. Yeah this is true. I've been looking in the database and it doesn't seem like there are TOO many errors happening however. On another note, I started up a new set of searches with fresh parameter and star files. So please let me know if these are causing any problems. |
Send message Joined: 27 Aug 07 Posts: 915 Credit: 1,503,319 RAC: 0 |
I am using an opti win32 app (zslip) and am processing s70, s82, & s86 without any errors whatsoever. They are all giving valid results and granting credit. I think if it was a system wide server issue, there would be a lot more people complaining. It seems to just be a handful of people having the problem. No errors showing here in BOINC messages. me@rescam.org |
Send message Joined: 4 Jul 08 Posts: 165 Credit: 364,966 RAC: 0 |
Gday all so far Im crunching a mix of all the wu's that are talked about woke up checked my results had only one error at http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=2294022 downloading and reporting ok at the moment Glenn Now crunching the newer searches that Travis was talking about will let every one know if I get error after they report Glenn |
Send message Joined: 4 Jul 08 Posts: 165 Credit: 364,966 RAC: 0 |
Just Reported wu's for the new searches 6 reported 6 more dowloaded with no errors and all reported got credit. Glenn |
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