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Message 12153 - Posted: 21 Feb 2009, 20:31:13 UTC - in response to Message 12110.  

As soon the Nvidia is ready I'm up for testing it on my 9600M GT.

If the project does not drop the double precision requirements, it will also require very recent nvidia cards (CUDA compute capabilities 1.3 required, your 9600GT supports 1.1). That means only the GTX 200 line will work.
That is the same the reason the ATI GPU app is only available for HD3800 and HD4800 cards.
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Message 12161 - Posted: 21 Feb 2009, 21:03:18 UTC - in response to Message 12120.  

And I don't think that the SETI CUDA is available for Macs yet either.



I think they are still waiting for Snow Leopard and open CL to work on porting.

Don't forget that there is no official AP app either.
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Message 12163 - Posted: 21 Feb 2009, 21:04:34 UTC - in response to Message 12153.  
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As soon the Nvidia is ready I'm up for testing it on my 9600M GT.

If the project does not drop the double precision requirements, it will also require very recent nvidia cards (CUDA compute capabilities 1.3 required, your 9600GT supports 1.1). That means only the GTX 200 line will work.
That is the same the reason the ATI GPU app is only available for HD3800 and HD4800 cards.

Well, I don't have the HD3800 or the HD4800, but I sure am using something that is crunching them mega qwik ;)

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Message 12201 - Posted: 21 Feb 2009, 21:59:05 UTC - in response to Message 12161.  

And I don't think that the SETI CUDA is available for Macs yet either.



I think they are still waiting for Snow Leopard and open CL to work on porting.

Don't forget that there is no official AP app either.


I'm pretty sure I'll be getting one of the new macbook pro's (my current one is in need of an upgrade), so you can bet there'll be a Mac OpenCL (or CUDA if snow leopard isn't out yet) version shortly after I get that :)
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Message 12303 - Posted: 22 Feb 2009, 5:10:24 UTC - in response to Message 12201.  

And I don't think that the SETI CUDA is available for Macs yet either.



I think they are still waiting for Snow Leopard and open CL to work on porting.

Don't forget that there is no official AP app either.


I'm pretty sure I'll be getting one of the new macbook pro's (my current one is in need of an upgrade), so you can bet there'll be a Mac OpenCL (or CUDA if snow leopard isn't out yet) version shortly after I get that :)

No, there aren't any CUDA libraries from Nvidia for Mac yet, that's what he meant. Apparently they're being worked on. As I got my new MacBook with GeForce 9400M graphics, I look forward to those.
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Message 12517 - Posted: 23 Feb 2009, 12:53:16 UTC - in response to Message 12303.  

And I don't think that the SETI CUDA is available for Macs yet either.



I think they are still waiting for Snow Leopard and open CL to work on porting.

Don't forget that there is no official AP app either.


I'm pretty sure I'll be getting one of the new macbook pro's (my current one is in need of an upgrade), so you can bet there'll be a Mac OpenCL (or CUDA if snow leopard isn't out yet) version shortly after I get that :)

No, there aren't any CUDA libraries from Nvidia for Mac yet, that's what he meant. Apparently they're being worked on. As I got my new MacBook with GeForce 9400M graphics, I look forward to those.


There are CUDA libraries for OS X. The OpenCL libraries are the ones being worked on for snow leopard. At any rate my laptop is too old to have a graphics card that supports CUDA, so I can't do too much work on one yet.

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Message 12707 - Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 11:16:39 UTC - in response to Message 12303.  

No, there aren't any CUDA libraries from Nvidia for Mac yet, that's what he meant. Apparently they're being worked on.

Not so much libraries, but drivers. The CUDA capability is built in in the 6.6 clients for the Mac, but they won't be enabled until nVidia releases the 64bit drivers that enables CUDA on the Mac. Of course, even then it doesn't help much as none of the projects have an application at the ready.
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Message 12734 - Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 17:04:10 UTC - in response to Message 12707.  

No, there aren't any CUDA libraries from Nvidia for Mac yet, that's what he meant. Apparently they're being worked on.

Not so much libraries, but drivers. The CUDA capability is built in in the 6.6 clients for the Mac, but they won't be enabled until nVidia releases the 64bit drivers that enables CUDA on the Mac. Of course, even then it doesn't help much as none of the projects have an application at the ready.


In theory all that would be required is that they compile their application with the Mac as the target using the Nvidia API ... of course we all know that it is not likely to be that easy ... and it also means that the project has to get a Mac to do so ...

Sadly, the community is still small enough that we can be ignored, though I think that there are more Mac users than Linux ...

We also have ATI cards for the Mac so it will be interesting to see which comes first ... if any ...
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Message 12736 - Posted: 24 Feb 2009, 17:35:21 UTC - in response to Message 12734.  

No, there aren't any CUDA libraries from Nvidia for Mac yet, that's what he meant. Apparently they're being worked on.

Not so much libraries, but drivers. The CUDA capability is built in in the 6.6 clients for the Mac, but they won't be enabled until nVidia releases the 64bit drivers that enables CUDA on the Mac. Of course, even then it doesn't help much as none of the projects have an application at the ready.


In theory all that would be required is that they compile their application with the Mac as the target using the Nvidia API ... of course we all know that it is not likely to be that easy ... and it also means that the project has to get a Mac to do so ...

Sadly, the community is still small enough that we can be ignored, though I think that there are more Mac users than Linux ...

We also have ATI cards for the Mac so it will be interesting to see which comes first ... if any ...

I'm willing to compile apps for Mac, I just need to be contacted.
And as for ATI cards in Mac, I don't think any of them are double-precision capable like what MW needs, plus Apple seems to be moving towards the Nvidia cards nowadays. We'll have to see where this goes in the future.
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Message 13041 - Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 10:11:14 UTC - in response to Message 12153.  

1) Any news on the Nvidia app?
2) Will it work on the 9x series?

Yeah the only current GPU app for milkyway is Cluster Physik's which uses ATI cards. We're working on one for Nvidia.



[quote]As soon the Nvidia is ready I'm up for testing it on my 9600M GT.

If the project does not drop the double precision requirements, it will also require very recent nvidia cards (CUDA compute capabilities 1.3 required, your 9600GT supports 1.1). That means only the GTX 200 line will work.
That is the same the reason the ATI GPU app is only available for HD3800 and HD4800 cards.


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Message 13123 - Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 22:44:06 UTC - in response to Message 13041.  

2) Will it work on the 9x series?

No.
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Message 13167 - Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 23:41:52 UTC - in response to Message 13123.  

2) Will it work on the 9x series?

No.

It's not fair :(


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Message 13174 - Posted: 27 Feb 2009, 23:55:59 UTC - in response to Message 13167.  

2) Will it work on the 9x series?

No.

It's not fair :(


Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.
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Message 13214 - Posted: 28 Feb 2009, 3:13:24 UTC - in response to Message 13174.  

2) Will it work on the 9x series?

No.

It's not fair :(



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Message 14081 - Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 6:43:53 UTC

I'm getting a 3870 to help crunch on a Vista 64 machine. Do I have to use optimized apps in order to use the gpu, or is it done automatically? Also, if I need to use optimized apps, how do I go about it? Depending on how many WU a 3870 can crunch at a time, I may get another 3870 to crunch on another machine.
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Message 14091 - Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 7:33:14 UTC - in response to Message 14081.  
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I'm getting a 3870 to help crunch on a Vista 64 machine. Do I have to use optimized apps in order to use the gpu, or is it done automatically? Also, if I need to use optimized apps, how do I go about it? Depending on how many WU a 3870 can crunch at a time, I may get another 3870 to crunch on another machine.


This might help. Remember, only the 8.12 or 9.1 drivers work - don't use the later 9.2 (9.1 drivers never worked for me)

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Message 14093 - Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 8:08:13 UTC - in response to Message 14091.  

Thanks Ice, I think I got it. I wish I could put a 4870, but it's a Dell, and it's cramped in there. 3870 is the best that fits in the machine and in my budget.
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Message 14097 - Posted: 6 Mar 2009, 8:27:33 UTC - in response to Message 14093.  

but it's a Dell...

Say no more ;) LOL

Actually, mine is also in a Dell. It's the only full sized tower with PCI-E that I have, and has the highest PSU wattage (probably not highly rated enough) - my HD4870 is crunching away in there.


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Message 14285 - Posted: 7 Mar 2009, 22:48:38 UTC - in response to Message 14097.  

Ice, I've got the 3870 installed, Catalyst 9.1 drivers, no other application running, only Boinc with the optimized apps for ATI GPU (0.19d Win64), but it's crashing the graphics driver very often (the Catalyst Control Center is not running in the background). I can't leave my computer crunching away without checking up on it from time to time. Is it the nature of the beast as it's not a final version? When it does work it's very fast, making my Dell AMD dual core nearly beat my Mac Pro with 8 cores!
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Message 14288 - Posted: 7 Mar 2009, 23:07:51 UTC - in response to Message 14285.  
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Ice, I've got the 3870 installed, Catalyst 9.1 drivers, no other application running, only Boinc with the optimized apps for ATI GPU (0.19d Win64), but it's crashing the graphics driver very often (the Catalyst Control Center is not running in the background). I can't leave my computer crunching away without checking up on it from time to time. Is it the nature of the beast as it's not a final version? When it does work it's very fast, making my Dell AMD dual core nearly beat my Mac Pro with 8 cores!

Install the 8.12 drivers Alberto. I've never managed to get the 9.1 drivers to work, and the 8.12 drivers are working well with my HD4870.

I tried the 9.2 drivers with my HD4870 as well as the 9.1, which worked for a while and then not in both cases, so I reverted to the 8.12 drivers and everything is well again and runs fine. I'm using optimized app version 0.19d.

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