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Message 15649 - Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 14:55:44 UTC

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/chart_list.php

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Message 15656 - Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 16:12:04 UTC - in response to Message 15649.  

http://boinc.berkeley.edu/chart_list.php

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Made the link active.
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Message 15667 - Posted: 16 Mar 2009, 18:26:40 UTC

It is curious, but all the people that process in GpuGrid have their Credits doubled, since they are annoted twice (as GPUGRID and PS3GRID).
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Message 15748 - Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 1:06:59 UTC


That list shows top users for multiple projects,

users participate in two or more projects with a resource share of 5% or more.



I see nothing wrong with this - seems that many have found a way to do work faster, and get rewarded for that work. As it should be.
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Message 15786 - Posted: 17 Mar 2009, 7:34:36 UTC - in response to Message 15748.  


That list shows top users for multiple projects,

users participate in two or more projects with a resource share of 5% or more.



I see nothing wrong with this - seems that many have found a way to do work faster, and get rewarded for that work. As it should be.

I agree. I can get three ATI cards or 30 PCs to do the same job (or is it 130?). Are those with multiple PCs doing something wrong by contributing so much?


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Message 16204 - Posted: 20 Mar 2009, 15:09:09 UTC - in response to Message 15786.  
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I can get three ATI cards or 30 PCs to do the same job (or is it 130?). Are those with multiple PCs doing something wrong by contributing so much?

Yep, they're hammering the server - they wouldnt do that of course if they were 30 different people
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Message 16928 - Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 15:54:57 UTC - in response to Message 15748.  


That list shows top users for multiple projects,

users participate in two or more projects with a resource share of 5% or more.



I see nothing wrong with this - seems that many have found a way to do work faster, and get rewarded for that work. As it should be.


Well, I do think this is unfair since there are no GPU-versions for e.g. MacOS X. My brand-new 8-core Nehalem MacPro needs more than 1,000 seconds, although it does have an ATI Radeon 4870. Turned down Milkyway to 10% until this issue is solved.

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Message 16930 - Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 17:03:43 UTC - in response to Message 16928.  


That list shows top users for multiple projects,
users participate in two or more projects with a resource share of 5% or more.

I see nothing wrong with this - seems that many have found a way to do work faster, and get rewarded for that work. As it should be.

Well, I do think this is unfair since there are no GPU-versions for e.g. MacOS X. My brand-new 8-core Nehalem MacPro needs more than 1,000 seconds, although it does have an ATI Radeon 4870. Turned down Milkyway to 10% until this issue is solved.

There isn't one for OS X because there's no development libraries from ATI/AMD for Stream for OS X. Linux on the other hand, does have libraries, so that one is missing out.
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Message 16941 - Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 18:40:15 UTC - in response to Message 16928.  


That list shows top users for multiple projects,

users participate in two or more projects with a resource share of 5% or more.



I see nothing wrong with this - seems that many have found a way to do work faster, and get rewarded for that work. As it should be.


Well, I do think this is unfair since there are no GPU-versions for e.g. MacOS X. My brand-new 8-core Nehalem MacPro needs more than 1,000 seconds, although it does have an ATI Radeon 4870. Turned down Milkyway to 10% until this issue is solved.

LOL...install 'doze. That'll get you crunching!
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Message 16955 - Posted: 26 Mar 2009, 22:20:26 UTC - in response to Message 16204.  

I thought we were here to crunch and complete all the WU's, not to take care of the server and make sure it is online and be sure that all get their WU's...
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Message 16966 - Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 0:53:54 UTC - in response to Message 16955.  
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I thought we were here to crunch and complete all the WU's, not to take care of the server and make sure it is online and be sure that all get their WU's...


Sorry Try but it seems we have a political correctness thing going on in the PC world, PC PC madness if you will.

Best hardware should get the biggest score and thats that. If someone is willing to spend the money or put the time in on an optimised client good on them.
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Message 16977 - Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 1:22:24 UTC - in response to Message 16928.  
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Well, I do think this is unfair since there are no GPU-versions for e.g. MacOS X. My brand-new 8-core Nehalem MacPro needs more than 1,000 seconds, although it does have an ATI Radeon 4870. Turned down Milkyway to 10% until this issue is solved.



Unfair ? Why unfair? Go out and get a compatible machine. There is absolutely nothing unfair about this.

Maybe it is unfair that I only have 1 Mac and I know people of have more than 1. Or that I only have 1 machine running Linux.

Unfair? Unfair that some have gone out and invested on machines that are compatible, and have invested on equipment for those machines that work within the applications limits?

Not one thing unfair about it.

If this project was that important to you to start calling things unfair, you should have considered getting the hardware that runs best on the project. Instead of spending a gazillion dollars for a 8 core Macpro that does not produce as much on this project as a $500 Pent D with a ATI 4870.
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Message 16979 - Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 1:42:48 UTC - in response to Message 16977.  
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Well, I do think this is unfair since there are no GPU-versions for e.g. MacOS X. My brand-new 8-core Nehalem MacPro needs more than 1,000 seconds, although it does have an ATI Radeon 4870. Turned down Milkyway to 10% until this issue is solved.



Unfair ? Why unfair? Go out and get a compatible machine. There is absolutely nothing unfair about this.


Alternatively, for the short term, Intel Mac OSX users could attempt to run VMware Fusion and see if that gives enough support to run the GPU app... A copy of Windows is required as well as the Fusion application.
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Message 16980 - Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 2:01:14 UTC - in response to Message 16977.  


Well, I do think this is unfair since there are no GPU-versions for e.g. MacOS X. My brand-new 8-core Nehalem MacPro needs more than 1,000 seconds, although it does have an ATI Radeon 4870. Turned down Milkyway to 10% until this issue is solved.


Why is this unfair??? You bought the machine...it is up to crunchers to make sure their upgrades are compatible. There has been enormous amount of information available on the forums as to what is compatible.

Nothing unfair about it friend....just do a little research before you purchase and you'll be fine.

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Message 16983 - Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 2:06:46 UTC - in response to Message 16979.  
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Alternatively, for the short term, Intel Mac OSX users could attempt to run VMware Fusion and see if that gives enough support to run the GPU app... A copy of Windows is required as well as the Fusion application.


For the less cost as of all that, you could go to a used computer store, buy the crappiest system they have with a PCIx slot, 40 gig HD, get a used 4870 (I have seen them for as low as $130.00) and walla - 80K a day. All for less than messing around with VM ware, and Fusion - and bloating a GREAT OS (MAC) with something that is as crappy as windoze.

Having windows run inside a VM on a MAC is like introducing my ex with my current. Not a wise choice IMO.
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Message 16992 - Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 2:57:23 UTC - in response to Message 16983.  
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Alternatively, for the short term, Intel Mac OSX users could attempt to run VMware Fusion and see if that gives enough support to run the GPU app... A copy of Windows is required as well as the Fusion application.


For the less cost as of all that, you could go to a used computer store, buy the crappiest system they have with a PCIx slot, 40 gig HD, get a used 4870 (I have seen them for as low as $130.00) and walla - 80K a day. All for less than messing around with VM ware, and Fusion - and bloating a GREAT OS (MAC) with something that is as crappy as windoze.

Having windows run inside a VM on a MAC is like introducing my ex with my current. Not a wise choice IMO.


I have 5 v-8's and not really a VMware guy...I've accepted the fact sometimes biggest isn't always the best. It's kinda nice to see some of the people who don't have the bucks to spend except maybe on a video cards be able to shoot up the ranks and have some fun. In time the bigger systems will get the modified apps and drivers to solve the problems I'm reading about here. We all get frustrated sometimes when things don't go our way. I've modified my farms thru the years to stay up with the projects as they changed....it sure can get exspensive sometimes. I opted to stay away from Mac's just because they most of times don't seem to be a good choice on most projects.

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Message 17001 - Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 3:17:29 UTC - in response to Message 16983.  

...buy the crappiest system they have with a PCIx slot...

Make that a PCIe slot, and the 4870 will fit ;)

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
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Message 17002 - Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 3:28:38 UTC - in response to Message 17001.  

...buy the crappiest system they have with a PCIx slot...

Make that a PCIe slot, and the 4870 will fit ;)

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)



Corrected.

I should post some pics some day of a couple of the boxes I have running 4870's.. if you can call them boxes...

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Message 17005 - Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 4:06:32 UTC - in response to Message 16979.  


Well, I do think this is unfair since there are no GPU-versions for e.g. MacOS X. My brand-new 8-core Nehalem MacPro needs more than 1,000 seconds, although it does have an ATI Radeon 4870. Turned down Milkyway to 10% until this issue is solved.



Unfair ? Why unfair? Go out and get a compatible machine. There is absolutely nothing unfair about this.


Alternatively, for the short term, Intel Mac OSX users could attempt to run VMware Fusion and see if that gives enough support to run the GPU app... A copy of Windows is required as well as the Fusion application.

I doubt VMware Fusion would expose the card enough to the virtualized OS for Stream to be of any use.
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Message 17006 - Posted: 27 Mar 2009, 4:31:59 UTC - in response to Message 17002.  

...buy the crappiest system they have with a PCIx slot...

Make that a PCIe slot, and the 4870 will fit ;)

(Sorry, couldn't resist.)



Corrected.

I should post some pics some day of a couple of the boxes I have running 4870's.. if you can call them boxes...



Lets see here ...I have an amd 3800+ with a gforce ecs mb and 1 geg ram and 550 w power supply and a 16 geg ssd with case... cost so far 200.00 usd...

add one Hd 4870 cost 150.00 usd = 94 k credits per day at a cost of 350.00 usd.

Not bad for 1.2 terraflops...output..

DD,

And I did not even have a MAC attack...
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