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Message 34100 - Posted: 2 Dec 2009, 15:39:10 UTC - in response to Message 34099.  


This sounded as if that was your intentions. The fix is easy and installing recaptcha can't be that hard I would think. Please take care of this ASAP.

Many simple things seem to take months to get around to here. As one example the UotD has been on two users for over 3 months.

I don't see a problem with a requirement of 50 credits to post. It isn't a 50 rac minimum.

BTW Can you make the requirements for CUDA a little easier. I can only do the 1.1 CUDA. The 2.3 is out of my parameters. Thank you :)


The higher cuda is needed for double precision. The 1.1 is single precision. Highly doubt that will happen.
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Message 34102 - Posted: 2 Dec 2009, 17:36:32 UTC

I don't fully understand why this discussion is taking place. Getting total credit of more than 50 takes 1 wu. I'd prefer to see a minimum RAC utilised, of say 20....
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Message 34104 - Posted: 2 Dec 2009, 17:44:46 UTC - in response to Message 34102.  

I don't fully understand why this discussion is taking place. Getting total credit of more than 50 takes 1 wu. I'd prefer to see a minimum RAC utilised, of say 20....

Sorceress wishes to edit her profile. To do this she requires a RAC of 50 or above. Her RAC is currently 17.

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Message 34105 - Posted: 2 Dec 2009, 18:29:40 UTC - in response to Message 34104.  
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I don't fully understand why this discussion is taking place. Getting total credit of more than 50 takes 1 wu. I'd prefer to see a minimum RAC utilised, of say 20....

Sorceress wishes to edit her profile. To do this she requires a RAC of 50 or above. Her RAC is currently 17.


I also would like to edit my profile but cant!! MY RAC is good enough I hope???It lets me edit but wont show my profile it says I dont have one!! By the way, it looks like we are already using Capcha arent we?? Its on my profile page.
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Message 34106 - Posted: 2 Dec 2009, 18:39:06 UTC - in response to Message 34105.  


I also would like to edit my profile but cant!! MY RAC is good enough I hope???It lets me edit but wont show my profile it says I dont have one!!

It says that because you got no profile. Otherwise you'd see this left of you nickname..

Anyway, it is also possible that you're one of the victims of one of the previous server crashes/ attempts to handle spam were lots of accounts were deleted for no reason and later recreated manually.


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Message 34110 - Posted: 2 Dec 2009, 19:24:40 UTC - in response to Message 34099.  

Sorceress--I didn't say we were going to "sweep this under the rug". We are focussing on stabilizing the project right now. It is on our list and is being discussed.

We are in process of trying to work a way around this issue but for now the Posting RAC restriction will be staying in place.


This sounded as if that was your intentions. The fix is easy and installing recaptcha can't be that hard I would think. Please take care of this ASAP.

BTW Can you make the requirements for CUDA a little easier. I can only do the 1.1 CUDA. The 2.3 is out of my parameters. Thank you :)


Sorceress--I'm only involved w/ the forums. Please PM Travis with any CUDA-related requests.

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Message 34111 - Posted: 2 Dec 2009, 19:30:59 UTC
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I have no interest in editing my profile, but would be disappointed if I wanted to but couldn't. These old eyes, and dirty glasses, occasionally have problems with captchas.
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Message 34114 - Posted: 2 Dec 2009, 20:42:39 UTC - in response to Message 33771.  

Like many others here who have complained about the 50 RAC, I am one. I have been a member here for quite some time and I'm upset with that restriction. Milky Way has too many problems with their project to maintain a 50 RAC. I do not run high end multiple computers, I have ONE. I need to edit my profile. You need to figure out a better program to weed out the spam instead of limiting it to a 50 RAC. Set it for a total credit instead. Say 10K or so. Will server the same purpose!
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This is not what you are looking for but maybe you could press "no new task or suspend" button in boinc manager in some of the project what you participate to get higher rac in MW.
After your rac is high enouch and you have edited your profile just resume work from suspended projects.
I hope this helps you.
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Message 34123 - Posted: 3 Dec 2009, 0:33:03 UTC - in response to Message 34106.  
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I also would like to edit my profile but cant!! MY RAC is good enough I hope???It lets me edit but wont show my profile it says I dont have one!!

It says that because you got no profile. Otherwise you'd see this left of you nickname..

Anyway, it is also possible that you're one of the victims of one of the previous server crashes/ attempts to handle spam were lots of accounts were deleted for no reason and later recreated manually.

I guess I'm one of the victims of one the previous crashes, but I still have no profile no matter how many tmes I've tried to save it!! It tells me it has saved my profile but when I click on the "see my profile" it tells me I dont have one!
;-p
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Message 34131 - Posted: 3 Dec 2009, 2:00:01 UTC - in response to Message 34123.  


I also would like to edit my profile but cant!! MY RAC is good enough I hope???It lets me edit but wont show my profile it says I dont have one!!

It says that because you got no profile. Otherwise you'd see this left of you nickname..

Anyway, it is also possible that you're one of the victims of one of the previous server crashes/ attempts to handle spam were lots of accounts were deleted for no reason and later recreated manually.

I guess I'm one of the victims of one the previous crashes, but I still have no profile no matter how many tmes I've tried to save it!! It tells me it has saved my profile but when I click on the "see my profile" it tells me I dont have one!
;-p


That`s just normal computer intelligence. ;-)
You have at least been able to change your hair
color lately ;-))
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Message 34136 - Posted: 3 Dec 2009, 3:57:27 UTC - in response to Message 34104.  

I don't fully understand why this discussion is taking place. Getting total credit of more than 50 takes 1 wu. I'd prefer to see a minimum RAC utilised, of say 20....

Sorceress wishes to edit her profile. To do this she requires a RAC of 50 or above. Her RAC is currently 17.


I see.

I notice over at LHC@home their previous UOTD profile was a spammer for pharmaceutical drugs.

Maybe not has high as 50, but definitely atleast 10. In any case wasn't this setting meant to be about posting restrictions. I didn't realise it also limited profile creation and editing. I note I was able to make a profile with no problems ;)

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Message 34137 - Posted: 3 Dec 2009, 4:42:58 UTC

Hmm, I just noticed my profile has disappeared. I'm sure I used to have a profile here with a photo of Tombei. Looks like Fuma Kotaro has managed to erase him. Or perhaps a sneak attack on the database by spider ninja! Ayyiie, look out, behind you...
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Message 34254 - Posted: 5 Dec 2009, 10:17:05 UTC

I just tried editing my profile (my RAC is good enough anyway, hehe) and I saw re-captcha is implemented now. :-)
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Message 34473 - Posted: 12 Dec 2009, 1:50:26 UTC
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So I guess I am still a rookie.....

I am running a few again on my old P4 2.5 since Einstein was down for a few hours.

Happy Chanukah


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Message 34482 - Posted: 12 Dec 2009, 13:29:45 UTC - in response to Message 34102.  
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I don't fully understand why this discussion is taking place. Getting total credit of more than 50 takes 1 wu. I'd prefer to see a minimum RAC utilised, of say 20....


The main problem with minimum RAC's are that they can peanalize long time crunchers, who had been at projects for years, for crunching something else now. Take someone's suggestion to someone on editing their profile (suspend all other projects, get the RAC up, then resume)... The only problem is that it forces people to have to do this, and if it came about every time a post needed to be made (didn't sound like it was going to posting though), meh...

I'll be a little blunt here; it isn't just spammers who would have issue with this sort of mandate. Like many others, I'm not particularly fond of what can very well appear as strong arm tactics or having my hand forced... And certainly when volunteering is what's being done.

Consider this scenario; and in no way am I saying this is what happens, but just for sake of example. Lets say someone was donating to United Way. Then a decision came down to restrict phone and on site access, so no one could call in or speak with anyone on site unless they donated a minimum of $25/month. Some might argue that's not even a $1/day so isn't much, but in point of fact it would come down to the principal of the thing. A person who is being kind enough to help with (in that case a charity) is being told "give more, else you can just drop your checks in the mail, but otherwise..." The impression would be no better then when one televangelist went to India, supposedly to "preach to the indigent populations there, unable to afford our visit" for which he incidentally got funds state side. But then turned around, and passed the collection plate, not once, not twice, but 3 times in the same service, while telling them to dig deeper into their pockets, and "give more". On the news documentary where this was reported, one of the locals finally said to another "this isn't a service, it's a da**** business meeting".

Now as to what's involved, one also has to take into account not only the beta nature of the project, and the fact that the servers don't exactly have a history of holding up the work load for demand (in part because Collatz is the other GPU project, and if one goes down, the other is likely to get swamped, and suffer as a result. Yes a third GPU project for both ATI and nVidia would help this, but is neither here nor there, as it's more in the landscape of projects available altogether). In any case, these downtimes do effect RAC. But the problem is also that for those who have to process this on a CPU (aka their gfx card is too old to support CUDA or the ATI equivallent), that 1 work unit instead of taking 45 mins? could take 6 hours, 8 hours, 10 hours, really depends on the speed of someone's CPU. Older obviously means it's probably not the lattest, core 2 duo or the like, but it could be just as old as my Athlon 64, or it could be a Pentium 4... We don't know, but what we do know is the project does officially support CPU processing, and as long as it does, they are a consideration.

Obviously I'm not speaking for myself here (considering my current RAC is off using a CPU, I had given a fair amount of crunch time on this project anyhow), but in terms of point of fact, on where it would put people who chose to spend a bit more time on other projects, it doesn't escape me. Ya know? I was there with SETI. There's something I would have responded to on their board (ironically the SETI beta forums I can post to however). However I simply am not going to be pressured (even through a sort of soft sell kinda pressuring) into crunching their project only until I get x RAC, just to be able to post one message. On an old account, affecting RAC from 1 WU only is also no small thing (I had processed one of everything sometime back when I changed emails just to make sure the x-platform ID got updated, etc).

Now I have a SETI account from 2000, and though by today's standards the credits aren't much, years ago, it took more time to crunch out. And looking at that, I'm rather less inclined, not more to go and crunch another WU for them; largely because I don't like being pressured in such manner. Do I commonly say as such? This said, I went from previously wanting to run other projects, to finding out about this; and currently I'm more inclined, rather then less to leave SETI nnt. There's other crunchers anyhow, so I doubt they'll miss whatever WU I might have done for them, prior to their decision on this. Pretty much an "oh well" sort of mutual indifference at present, I would imagine.
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Message 34812 - Posted: 24 Dec 2009, 7:15:00 UTC - in response to Message 19041.  
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Hey folks,

Since there was a lot of spam going around I made the forums able to be posted on when you have a total credit greater than or equal to 50. You can make or edit a profile when you have a RAC of 50 or greater.


Much ado about nothing, most of the conversation that has followed, eh? Unless something has changed since Dave's initial post.

Blurf, please clarify. Clearly, Sorceress has been able to post outside the Q&A Thread(s), so it seems it is just a matter of credit, not RAC. Correct or not? And, is there a difference or not, as indicated by the way Dave worded his opening post: credit for posting, RAC for profile editing?
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Message 34820 - Posted: 24 Dec 2009, 12:05:14 UTC - in response to Message 34812.  

Sure, she can post, the problem is she wants to EDIT her profile, which while her RAC is below 50 she can't do.
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Message 34822 - Posted: 24 Dec 2009, 13:04:43 UTC - in response to Message 34812.  

Hey folks,

Since there was a lot of spam going around I made the forums able to be posted on when you have a total credit greater than or equal to 50. You can make or edit a profile when you have a RAC of 50 or greater.


Much ado about nothing, most of the conversation that has followed, eh? Unless something has changed since Dave's initial post.

Blurf, please clarify. Clearly, Sorceress has been able to post outside the Q&A Thread(s), so it seems it is just a matter of credit, not RAC. Correct or not? And, is there a difference or not, as indicated by the way Dave worded his opening post: credit for posting, RAC for profile editing?


Credit over 50 = posting, Credit over 50 RAC = profile.
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Message 34836 - Posted: 25 Dec 2009, 3:27:19 UTC - in response to Message 34822.  

Hey folks,

Since there was a lot of spam going around I made the forums able to be posted on when you have a total credit greater than or equal to 50. You can make or edit a profile when you have a RAC of 50 or greater.


Much ado about nothing, most of the conversation that has followed, eh? Unless something has changed since Dave's initial post.

Blurf, please clarify. Clearly, Sorceress has been able to post outside the Q&A Thread(s), so it seems it is just a matter of credit, not RAC. Correct or not? And, is there a difference or not, as indicated by the way Dave worded his opening post: credit for posting, RAC for profile editing?


Credit over 50 = posting, Credit over 50 RAC = profile.


That's how I read it, but the discussion sure indicates people interepreting it very differently! As if ALL this requires an RAC of at least 50.
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Message 34864 - Posted: 26 Dec 2009, 22:10:27 UTC

My credit and my RAC are well over 50, but I still cannot edit my profile! Travis said he would look into it but nothing since.
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