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Message 747 - Posted: 28 Nov 2007, 23:50:18 UTC

I thought this deserved it's own thread since there were a few others about this.

I've gone through the database and fixed all the errors in the credit that I could find -- so hopefully the top lists are looking the way they should.

What I did was i scanned all the computers to see if any had extremely high avg credit (above 500 -- this shouldn't be possible, especially these were single CPU machines and the number of processed WUs was very low). I removed the bad credit from these, then proceeded to remove it from the user in charge of them, and that users team.

I didn't know mysql before this afternoon, so hopefully I didn't screw anything up and no user or team lost more credit than they should have. If any of you have and problems with this (you think i took more credit away than i should have), please send me message and i'll look into it.
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Message 772 - Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 7:39:04 UTC

Where the hell has all my credit gone.

I have run many BOINC projects on my dual Xeon rig and never had any problems with them.

All my work was earned so it should all be reinstated.

I think you got this wrong in my case Travis.
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Message 777 - Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 16:49:04 UTC

41,697 credit is the amount you need to credit back to me just in case you don't know.
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Message 787 - Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 20:11:40 UTC - in response to Message 777.  

41,697 credit is the amount you need to credit back to me just in case you don't know.


You were another person with extremely high avg credit for a single computer (over 600) and this just wasn't in line with what everyone else was getting. This was similar to all the other machines that had received erroneous credit for work units.

Looking in the database now, i only reduced the work on your Xeon, and left the others alone (because they were more realistic), however, it seems i didn't leave their credit for you, so i'll update that.

Maybe leave your xeon crunching for a day so i can see what kind of credit it's getting? It really did seem very off from the other machines out there (that hadn't gotten extremely high credit for a couple work units), having at least 2x the avg credit of anything else.

unfortunately the exact workunits that gave the bad credit weren't still in the database so i just had to go by removing credit from computers that looked really off.
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Message 788 - Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 20:19:46 UTC - in response to Message 787.  

41,697 credit is the amount you need to credit back to me just in case you don't know.


You were another person with extremely high avg credit for a single computer (over 600) and this just wasn't in line with what everyone else was getting. This was similar to all the other machines that had received erroneous credit for work units.

Looking in the database now, i only reduced the work on your Xeon, and left the others alone (because they were more realistic), however, it seems i didn't leave their credit for you, so i'll update that.

Maybe leave your xeon crunching for a day so i can see what kind of credit it's getting? It really did seem very off from the other machines out there (that hadn't gotten extremely high credit for a couple work units), having at least 2x the avg credit of anything else.

unfortunately the exact workunits that gave the bad credit weren't still in the database so i just had to go by removing credit from computers that looked really off.


A dual Xeon is a very powerful machine. It is comparable to a Quad core which if my calculations are correct should be able to process about 1000 WU's a day if it is running this project exclusively. Where one of the big differences comes in is that a LOT of people run multiple projects on each computer at once. So 2 identical computers could have very different results depending on how many and which projects they are running.

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Message 789 - Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 20:20:32 UTC - in response to Message 787.  

On another note i did screw up in readjusting the credit for you as a user, and i just fixed to be the total of your other computers. so it's up around 8k credit and 300 avg.

I hope that could be acceptable... I had to put the computers with really far off values down to zero because there wasn't any real way to just remove the offending work units.
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Message 799 - Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 21:35:57 UTC
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Fozzie has been crunching with us for years and has never been associated with any sort of foul play. Before the blowup, he was easily in 2nd place. Those dual Xeons are monsters!

I urge you as strongly as possible to look at restoring all his points.

Maybe leave your xeon crunching for a day so i can see what kind of credit it's getting?


How can we set this up?
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Message 800 - Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 21:43:25 UTC - in response to Message 787.  

41,697 credit is the amount you need to credit back to me just in case you don't know.


You were another person with extremely high avg credit for a single computer (over 600) and this just wasn't in line with what everyone else was getting. This was similar to all the other machines that had received erroneous credit for work units.

Looking in the database now, i only reduced the work on your Xeon, and left the others alone (because they were more realistic), however, it seems i didn't leave their credit for you, so i'll update that.

Maybe leave your xeon crunching for a day so i can see what kind of credit it's getting? It really did seem very off from the other machines out there (that hadn't gotten extremely high credit for a couple work units), having at least 2x the avg credit of anything else.

unfortunately the exact workunits that gave the bad credit weren't still in the database so i just had to go by removing credit from computers that looked really off.


Travis, Xeons and Conroe Quads or similar to this are exceptions, you can reach a RAC of 1000 if you crunch a while :) so take a look into it. I can also have a RAC of 600 because my CPU is overclocked!
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Message 805 - Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 22:37:25 UTC - in response to Message 800.  
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41,697 credit is the amount you need to credit back to me just in case you don't know.


You were another person with extremely high avg credit for a single computer (over 600) and this just wasn't in line with what everyone else was getting. This was similar to all the other machines that had received erroneous credit for work units.

Looking in the database now, i only reduced the work on your Xeon, and left the others alone (because they were more realistic), however, it seems i didn't leave their credit for you, so i'll update that.

Maybe leave your xeon crunching for a day so i can see what kind of credit it's getting? It really did seem very off from the other machines out there (that hadn't gotten extremely high credit for a couple work units), having at least 2x the avg credit of anything else.

unfortunately the exact workunits that gave the bad credit weren't still in the database so i just had to go by removing credit from computers that looked really off.


Travis, Xeons and Conroe Quads or similar to this are exceptions, you can reach a RAC of 1000 if you crunch a while :) so take a look into it. I can also have a RAC of 600 because my CPU is overclocked!



Rebirther-Crystallize had said in a thread getting 4-8 cs per unit which IS 2-4 times higher than everyone else....I don't think Travis changed many quad-dualquads..most got left alone.
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Message 811 - Posted: 29 Nov 2007, 22:48:35 UTC - in response to Message 805.  

41,697 credit is the amount you need to credit back to me just in case you don't know.


You were another person with extremely high avg credit for a single computer (over 600) and this just wasn't in line with what everyone else was getting. This was similar to all the other machines that had received erroneous credit for work units.

Looking in the database now, i only reduced the work on your Xeon, and left the others alone (because they were more realistic), however, it seems i didn't leave their credit for you, so i'll update that.

Maybe leave your xeon crunching for a day so i can see what kind of credit it's getting? It really did seem very off from the other machines out there (that hadn't gotten extremely high credit for a couple work units), having at least 2x the avg credit of anything else.

unfortunately the exact workunits that gave the bad credit weren't still in the database so i just had to go by removing credit from computers that looked really off.


Travis, Xeons and Conroe Quads or similar to this are exceptions, you can reach a RAC of 1000 if you crunch a while :) so take a look into it. I can also have a RAC of 600 because my CPU is overclocked!



Rebirther-Crystallize had said in a thread getting 4-8 cs per unit which IS 2-4 times higher than everyone else....I don't think Travis changed many quad-dualquads..most got left alone.


You are right, crunching times before was 8min on my E6750, got 2,xx credits I think.
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Message 832 - Posted: 30 Nov 2007, 11:24:42 UTC

Well I am going to give it another try over the weekend, so Travis see what you think I have pulled my Dual Xeon 3.6 off NQueens and onto Milkyway.

It is running MW exclusively, to show the same settings it had previously.
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Message 844 - Posted: 30 Nov 2007, 23:10:23 UTC - in response to Message 832.  

Well I am going to give it another try over the weekend, so Travis see what you think I have pulled my Dual Xeon 3.6 off NQueens and onto Milkyway.

It is running MW exclusively, to show the same settings it had previously.


sweet, it seems like the a few of the computers that were getting weird credit were xeons -- i think the problem might have been partially about how boinc does the benchmarking for them. with the new credit scheme, credit should actually be a bit higher than it was before, so if you're back around 600 i'll give you your credit back.

what i'm thinking is if we get some numbers on how your xeon is running now, whatever % of what it was before i'll add back. i have a feeling it'll be about half what it was before because it seemed like your xeon (and Crystallize's as well) were getting double the credit what they should have.
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