Here's an interesting site: http://www.wechoosethemoon.org/

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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Here's an interesting site: http://www.wechoosethemoon.org/

Nice find.

Yeah It was mentioned on KCAL TV Channel 9 out of Los Angeles, 63 hours till launch(plus or minus a few minutes and seconds of course).

Oh and the Widget works under XP x64, I don't know about Win7 x64, But I'll get that around Halloween I expect(I snagged a copy for $49.99 at Amazon back on the 11th).

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It's all in your head


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*** BOFH excuse #136:
Daemons loose in system.

Having another bash on Wednesday

Try try again

The 40th Anniv. of the Launch of Apollo 11 is T -21:30 min.

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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

NASA releases clearest videos yet of 1969 moonwalk


NASA hired a digital restoration firm to improve video
showing astronauts taking first steps on the moon.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/TECH/space/07/16/nasa.videos/index.html

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The Eagle has been spotted!


The lunar module Eagle, which was used to carry
Apollo 11 astronauts Neil Armstrong and Buzz
Aldrin down to the lunar surface on 20 July 1969 is
the small bright dot near the center of this image;
its shadow can be seen stretching to its right.

http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn17486-spy-probe-images-apollo-landing-sites.html

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Here's a Picture of where Apollo 14 rests at:



http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/badastronomy/2009/07/17/apollo-landing-sites-imaged-by-lro/

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Must I say it took long enough. I remember watching on tv this year an observatory or similar thereof showed that they sent a pulse (laser or radio wave, I forget) and was returned by the instruments that were left on the moon.

T -64:54:30 till landing.

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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Must I say it took long enough. I remember watching on tv this year an observatory or similar thereof showed that they sent a pulse (laser or radio wave, I forget) and was returned by the instruments that were left on the moon.

T -64:54:30 till landing.

And We have to wait until late August for the LRO to get to Its 50Klick orbit, These were taken nearly 200Klicks up, As they should get 2 to 3 times better!

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NOW is the time to put my old Apollo glasses on EBAY. I can't believe it was that long ago.
I remember watching on TV. 8-)

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PEACE or Pistols...Yer Choice ;-}

NOW is the time to put my old Apollo glasses on EBAY.

I've just picked up a set of glasses and 2 pitchers (1 with the topper) recently for only a few dollars. I think they are great.

I can't believe it was that long ago. I remember watching on TV. 8-)

I wasn't anywhere near being though of yet. :p
I Like watching the old footage of all the missions, it's great to see.



Some years back I built a model of the Apollo 11 landing site as well as one of the Rocket. Came out pretty good, couple of my earlier models.

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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Of course, Better late than Never Is: Constellation

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/main/cev.html

Ares 5(Left) & Ares I(Right, The Pogo Stick)
Click on above pic to see FULL Size!
Warning: Orig Image size: 756x1552

Ares I is the Bush idea, From what I've read Ares V is more than powerful enough to handle both the crew and all the rest all at once, So why is the rough riding Ares I even worth doing? Compare the boosters of Ares V to Ares I, Their both Shuttle derived.

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Of course, Better late than Never Is: Constellation

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/main/cev.html

Ares 5(Left) & Ares I(Right, The Pogo Stick)
Click on above pic to see FULL Size!
Warning: Orig Image size: 756x1552

Ares I is the Bush idea, From what I've read Ares V is more than powerful enough to handle both the crew and all the rest all at once, So why is the rough riding Ares I even worth doing? Compare the boosters of Ares V to Ares I, Their both Shuttle derived.

V is more than powerful to send everything to the moon at once. The V was/is the most reliable, most consistant rocket ever built. Also It is was never ran at full throttle/ capacity and tested to run at 110% with no failures. The new rocket is a wimp, and has a weight limit. Makes no sense at all. The Nasa heads decided how to go about all of this backwards with wanting new stuff.

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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

Of course, Better late than Never Is: Constellation

http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/constellation/main/cev.html

Ares 5(Left) & Ares I(Right, The Pogo Stick)
Click on above pic to see FULL Size!
Warning: Orig Image size: 756x1552

Ares I is the Bush idea, From what I've read Ares V is more than powerful enough to handle both the crew and all the rest all at once, So why is the rough riding Ares I even worth doing? Compare the boosters of Ares V to Ares I, Their both Shuttle derived.

V is more than powerful to send everything to the moon at once. The V was/is the most reliable, most consistent rocket ever built. Also It is was never ran at full throttle/ capacity and tested to run at 110% with no failures. The new rocket is a wimp, and has a weight limit. Makes no sense at all. The NASA heads decided how to go about all of this backwards with wanting new stuff.

Which V are You talking about bw?

I was talking about Saturn V's successor the Ares V which can lift 188 tons to orbit, Saturn V could only lift 118 tons(Either one is better than that wimp known as the Shuttle which can't do more than 24.5 tons). Besides all the tooling and the templates for the Saturn V are all gone, All were Scrapped by Boeing, North American(Boeing), McDonnell Douglas(Boeing) and Rocketdyne(Boeing). Besides It's largely 60's technology, Loud and powerful, But damn LOUD!

Oh and the only surviving Apollo technology today? The J-2 rocket, Today Its known as the J-2X.

Oh and the Saturn V(pronounced as: Saturn Five) Blueprints are on Microfilm and NASA knows where they are, Did NASA ask for a bid from Boeing on building the Saturn V again and adapting modern electronics to the design? Nope, Instead We get Bush era Cheaper(?), Better(not), Faster(so not) again.

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V is more than powerful to send everything to the moon at once. The V was/is the most reliable, most consistent rocket ever built. Also It is was never ran at full throttle/ capacity and tested to run at 110% with no failures. The new rocket is a wimp, and has a weight limit. Makes no sense at all. The NASA heads decided how to go about all of this backwards with wanting new stuff.

Which V are You talking about bw?

I was talking about Saturn V's successor the Ares V which can lift 188 tons to orbit, Saturn V could only lift 118 tons(Either one is better than that wimp known as the Shuttle which can't do more than 24.5 tons). Besides all the tooling and the templates for the Saturn V are all gone, All were Scrapped by Boeing, North American(Boeing), McDonnell Douglas(Boeing) and Rocketdyne(Boeing). Besides It's largely 60's technology, Loud and powerful, But damn LOUD!

Oh and the only surviving Apollo technology today? The J-2 rocket, Today Its known as the J-2X.

Oh and the Saturn V(pronounced as: Saturn Five) Blueprints are on Microfilm and NASA knows where they are, Did NASA ask for a bid from Boeing on building the Saturn V again and adapting modern electronics to the design? Nope, Instead We get Bush era Cheaper(?), Better(not), Faster(so not) again.

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Again Bush had nothing to do with Nasa. It was Nasa's heads that went this route. They wanted all new shiny stuff. That is why we are going to a dumb little triagle to put people on the space station and will be paying Russia (who had a worse success record) to launch our payloads. The rocket was built to launch the pods to the moon. The shuttle was only ment for delevering payloads to LEO. Not comparable. It also had the best fuel efficiency to power ratio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V_rocket
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/air_space/4322647.html

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Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected?
If it makes sense, DON'T do it.

V is more than powerful to send everything to the moon at once. The V was/is the most reliable, most consistent rocket ever built. Also It is was never ran at full throttle/ capacity and tested to run at 110% with no failures. The new rocket is a wimp, and has a weight limit. Makes no sense at all. The NASA heads decided how to go about all of this backwards with wanting new stuff.

Which V are You talking about bw?

I was talking about Saturn V's successor the Ares V which can lift 188 tons to orbit, Saturn V could only lift 118 tons(Either one is better than that wimp known as the Shuttle which can't do more than 24.5 tons). Besides all the tooling and the templates for the Saturn V are all gone, All were Scrapped by Boeing, North American(Boeing), McDonnell Douglas(Boeing) and Rocketdyne(Boeing). Besides It's largely 60's technology, Loud and powerful, But damn LOUD!

Oh and the only surviving Apollo technology today? The J-2 rocket, Today Its known as the J-2X.

Oh and the Saturn V(pronounced as: Saturn Five) Blueprints are on Microfilm and NASA knows where they are, Did NASA ask for a bid from Boeing on building the Saturn V again and adapting modern electronics to the design? Nope, Instead We get Bush era Cheaper(?), Better(not), Faster(so not) again.

Again Bush had nothing to do with NASA. It was NASA's heads that went this route. They wanted all new shiny stuff. That is why we are going to a dumb little triangle to put people on the space station and will be paying Russia (who had a worse success record) to launch our payloads. The rocket was built to launch the pods to the moon. The shuttle was only meant for delivering payloads to LEO. Not comparable. It also had the best fuel efficiency to power ratio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturn_V_rocket
http://www.popularmechanics.com/science/air_space/4322647.html

Ok, On NASA, I still don't really like the Shuttle all that much, Every launch is a throw of the Dice, 1st It was the Boosters O-rings failing in cold weather, then Foam impacting the shuttle making a hole for plasma to tear a wing off at. The Shuttle turns out to be quite limited and a bit dangerous as well, It has killed 14 people so far, If NASA is lucky the 3 remaining Shuttles won't take anymore to their graves, There are 7 more launches to go on the Shuttle, Before their retired for good. Oh and as to Russia, Their better today than they were back when they were under the Soviets.

Cargo Capacity(tons):
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Saturn V: 118.0
Shuttle:   24.5
Ares V:   188.0

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Ok, On NASA, I still don't really like the Shuttle all that much, Every launch is a throw of the Dice, 1st It was the Boosters O-rings failing in cold weather, then Foam impacting the shuttle making a hole for plasma to tear a wing off at. The Shuttle turns out to be quite limited and a bit dangerous as well, It has killed 14 people so far, If NASA is lucky the 3 remaining Shuttles won't take anymore to their graves, There are 7 more launches to go on the Shuttle, Before their retired for good. Oh and as to Russia, Their better today than they were back when they were under the Soviets.

Cargo Capacity(tons):
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Saturn V: 118.0
Shuttle:   24.5
Ares V:   188.0

This is VERY true. Many have learned much from the past.
And look at the Computing power we have now plus modern power sources.

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PEACE or Pistols...Yer Choice ;-}

Congratulations to America and Apollo 11. Fantastic achievement!

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It was a magnificent achievement and showed how ingenuity could triumph, despite the Kennedy announcement placing a burden on what would become NASA for a task nobody had a clue how to achieve. But, achieve it they did and within the deadline given.

Now we need a challenge to return to the moon and thence on to Mars. Something I may just (with good luck) see within my lifetime (maybe).

This time around the competition will be decidedly fiercer (China, India, Russia, Japan, etc).

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Go away, I was asleep