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Posts by Faxon

1) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors. (Message 60331)
Posted 7 Nov 2013 by Faxon
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the 4x capacity rig (x3 720 black) rig is using an old topower 900w unit that came highly recommended a while back on jonnyguru and hardocp. it's at it's card capacity currently from the given adapters but i havent checked its total draw yet. my main rig thats getting all the tahiti love is on an Enermax Revolution 85+ 1050w and is one of the best power supplies i have ever bought for sure. very happy with the results on it and once i get all 3 cards in it I'm looking at ramping up some clock speeds. my cards are running 900MHz but the one my friend is selling me did 1080 at stock voltage under load apparently, and i wanna see how much wiggle room my two have now that they're getting up there in age a little. one of em might have a bad chip of VRAM on it as the system gives some occasional artifacts in games but its intermittent and crossed an OS install and a system ram/boot drive replacement, and i've been unable to isolate it to a single card either and figured if the card's gonna go, its gonna go. It's still under warranty from august 2012 for 3 years total so stressing it into a burnout now would be ideal, rather than down the line when they can't fix it as easily or something else unpleasant.
2) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors. (Message 60323)
Posted 6 Nov 2013 by Faxon
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yea also running cpu units. that rig is supposed to have 8GB of ram (it did originally) and i have a ton of DDR3 i need to RMA as well, all gskill kits i had when bus OCing was still a thing but 1.5v. should be able to get them to send me a new consolidated kit for it all if i can find the second 4gb kit. ill try tinkering with it when i get the memory fixed, but for now it's running and it's crunching out units non stop like they don't exist. It's gonna get a bios update and an 8 core around christmas as well when i have the money, the board is an MSI 790FXA-GD70 and i can put 4 dual slot cards in it, or 5 if i convert two to single slot water cooling, but the budget for that would't be worth it because for the price of the blocks and new radiator i could also buy another board CPU and PSU and drop my x3 into that rig, and i already have a case, then just keep adding GPUs lol. YAY SCALABILITY!
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors. (Message 60317)
Posted 6 Nov 2013 by Faxon
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okay so i got the drivers working, everything is golden and then the unit fails right as it hits 100%. I'm thinking BOINC version might be the issue now, but the cc_config.xml fix wont load properly and when i did update it, i let it run for a while but it never got any units to test if the 6970 would pass or fail either so i reverted back and I'm waiting for some questions to be answered. I'm guessing i use the default BOINC install folder (not the hidden program data folder microsoft has for all apps to store critical info in) but i put the file there and it didn't work. did i do anything wrong? if not i will uninstall boinc clean and reboot and try again, or if one of you wants to get on skype or something with me and yell at me like i'm a teenager looking at porn and not an A+ certified tech who should be able to figure this out themselves /sobs. I'm so rusty lol I need to focus on keeping up to date when i go away from tech for a while
4) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors. (Message 60316)
Posted 6 Nov 2013 by Faxon
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no i didn't actually i JUST closed the link from the downloads. i went to guru3d because AMD's page wouldn't give me a link when i looked for 13.4, but guru3d as always had 13.4 WHQL at the top of google :)
5) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors. (Message 60308)
Posted 5 Nov 2013 by Faxon
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thanks a bunch mikey, this is exactly what sunny and I needed over on anandtech forums to complete the picture for the fix he had worked up, now i know exactly what drivers i can and can't use.
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors. (Message 60306)
Posted 4 Nov 2013 by Faxon
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awesome. i set it so it's running like this. been busy catching up on things i have had to do that piled up while i was sick, hoping to look into why its actually failing tonight. over on anandtech we have a working model of the problem and some possible fixes laid out. turns out not all versions of the AMD drivers have open_cl drivers and we think that something required to run the units is missing from whatever driver version I'm currently using (and which was destroyed in my initial reinstall which would explain my 5870 no longer working like it did with the units). I'm gonna do the footwork and find a driver version that works, figure out whats special about it if i can, and if there are any others that also work. the 5870/6970 combo (or any combo of 58xx/69xx cards) is probably going to become really common as anyone that didn't already upgrade to 79xx is probably looking at upgrading to an R9 card now and there's a ton of cards up for sale in my area. Just the other day i saw someone locally selling 15 6970s for $100 a pop and i was sitting there salvating over the WUs that many cards would produce for such a price. It'll be important to make sure people buying these old parts know which drivers are needed to run the tasks until the project finds a work around or AMD stops slacking on driver support (assuming that's the issue). I'm also looking at just foregoing windows computing possibly and installing a linux boot/VM to compute in since performance and driver support both seem to be better there right now especially for GPU compute simply because of the lack of overhead. ill take a look at this option later though since i have other things to fix and deal with first before any upgrades like that can be made.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors. (Message 60303)
Posted 4 Nov 2013 by Faxon
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they're getting downloaded and turned into errors anyways, and my other rig is running them fine. is there a way to set this on a client by client basis?
8) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors. (Message 60300)
Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Faxon
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i will investigate it. i was about to sit down for a session of DJing before my family gets home so i can actually run my full 1000w set of monitors and subs since they were supposed to get home today but it sounds like they're gonna be a few hours. I also set my work unit cache for BOINC to be 10 days worth and deleted all the offending units issued before they could start until i only had a cache of separation (modified fit) units to run for the next couple hours. I'll watch it closely until i can tinker with it because that rig's RAC is really suffering, it's still going up but it's going up at a much slower rate relative to the rigs computational power in comparison vs my 2x 7950s. that 5-7s + task switch time is adding up really fast on all these failed units :(
9) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors. (Message 60297)
Posted 3 Nov 2013 by Faxon
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i ran driversweeper and i am still having problems on my ATI system. as of the last update i posted where i tried to fix it i had already run driversweeper on the system twice.
10) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors. (Message 60280)
Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Faxon
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richard i'm hunting for something specific which i can't find currently on the E@H forums and noticed you've posted to a lot of the threads im browsing through, maybe you can help me find the fix i need. Over on anandtech one of our teammates has been trying to help figure out whats up as well and posted this

i was not able to dig up what i was looking for, but i'm pretty sure it can be found by searching the Einstein@Home forums. i seem to recall that parts of the OpenCL library were left out of a specific Catalyst driver version (or versions), though i cannot recall which version(s) off the top of my head...and i may be remebering things inaccurately, so alternatively it might have been the APP SDK that was left out of a particular Catalyst driver version (or versions). IIRC, this caused problems for AMD 5xxx series GPUs, but not AMD 6xxx series GPUs and up. unfortunately i'll be going out of town for the weekend right after i get out of work this afternoon, so i won't be able to poke around the Einstein@Home forums to look for possible problems and solutions until next week. in the mean time, i suggest you skim over the E@H message boards while i'm away (assuming you haven't already solved the problem via a fresh driver install...after all, it seems like you're onto something having recalled that the GTX 260 used to be installed on that machine...let us know how that goes).


you should probably refer to the thread for context. i posted the link earlier but here it is again. http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2350667.
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors. (Message 60278)
Posted 2 Nov 2013 by Faxon
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Yea that was my thought as well Richard. I've seen units get flagged as out of date when updating and simply replaced, these units started and ran for at least 1 second each before failing. upon updating the client and getting new units issued, these all also failed. Definitely nothing to do with juts not getting fresh units from the project after a major update
12) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors. (Message 60272)
Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Faxon
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ill try this if a fix is found for the errors. right now updating the client to that version is pointless anyways because doing so made my 6970 instantly fail all GPU work units anyways making updating a moot point. At least with the old version i can run both congruently and run some of the GPU work units. And the card isn't technically disabled, its showing up as enabled in device manager and in drivers the same with both versions. The version switch was also done without a reboot (i rebooted to see if the card would start getting them, but when i switched back to the old version it instantly started working so i didn't bother rebooting again, making the first reboot redundant), telling me the card was detecting fine to begin with, BOINC was just disabling it as a compute card
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors. (Message 60264)
Posted 1 Nov 2013 by Faxon
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no i am using a 6970 and a 5870 in the other rig. i just updated to the latest version of BOINC and am still getting errors, and additionally the 5870 is no longer being issued work units. I ran driversweeper and fresh installed a few different drivers as well and no dice. the rig will soon have a second 5870 added to it as well once i retrieve it from a friends.

edit: upon a quick check, it seems that updating my client actually has disallowed me from running my 6970 and 5870 congruently. the updated client seems to have disabled the card in a computing capacity arbitrarily without any discourse for myself to go about re-enabling my 5870. reverting back to the old version from the installer i still had enabled me to start using the cards simultaneously again.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Computation errors. (Message 60253)
Posted 30 Oct 2013 by Faxon
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I'm getting errors as well. I crossposted to anandtech's DC forum here's my post with the info. it's the milkyway@home 1.02 opencl units that are erroring for me on 2 different good cards and idk why. the same units are running just fine on my 7950s

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=35669593#post35669593

heres my log output from when i started to when i started and ended two tasks which errored out.

10/30/2013 5:49:12 AM Starting BOINC client version 6.10.58 for windows_x86_64
10/30/2013 5:49:12 AM log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
10/30/2013 5:49:12 AM Libraries: libcurl/7.19.7 OpenSSL/0.9.8l zlib/1.2.3
10/30/2013 5:49:12 AM Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
10/30/2013 5:49:12 AM Running under account user
10/30/2013 5:49:12 AM Processor: 3 AuthenticAMD AMD Phenom(tm) II X3 720 Processor [Family 16 Model 4 Stepping 2]
10/30/2013 5:49:12 AM Processor: 512.00 KB cache
10/30/2013 5:49:12 AM Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 htt pni cx16 syscall nx lm svm sse4a osvw ibs skinit wdt page1gb rdtscp 3dnowext 3dnow
10/30/2013 5:49:12 AM OS: Microsoft Windows 7: x64 Edition, Service Pack 1, (06.01.7601.00)
10/30/2013 5:49:12 AM Memory: 3.98 GB physical, 7.97 GB virtual
10/30/2013 5:49:12 AM Disk: 59.90 GB total, 20.50 GB free
10/30/2013 5:49:12 AM Local time is UTC -7 hours
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM ATI GPU 0: ATI unknown (CAL version 1.4.1848, 2048MB, 3379 GFLOPS peak)
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM ATI GPU 1: ATI Radeon HD5800 series (Cypress) (CAL version 1.4.1848, 1024MB, 2816 GFLOPS peak)
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM SETI@home Application uses missing NVIDIA GPU
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM Milkyway@Home URL http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/; Computer ID 222113; resource share 900
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM SETI@home URL http://setiathome.berkeley.edu/; Computer ID 5553231; resource share 100
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM No general preferences found - using BOINC defaults
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM Reading preferences override file
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM Preferences:
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM max memory usage when active: 2039.88MB
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM max memory usage when idle: 3671.78MB
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM max disk usage: 10.00GB
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25 %
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM Using proxy info from GUI
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM Not using a proxy
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM SETI@home Restarting task 14oc08ad.14450.13978.3.12.178_2 using setiathome_v7 version 700
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM SETI@home Restarting task 06mr09ae.10741.1708.3.12.250_0 using setiathome_v7 version 700
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM Milkyway@Home Restarting task ps_modfit_15_3s_bpl_128wrap_2_1382698503_786527_0 using milkyway_separation__modified_fit version 128
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM Milkyway@Home Restarting task ps_modfit_15_3s_bpl_128wrap_2_1382698503_786526_0 using milkyway_separation__modified_fit version 128
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM Milkyway@Home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/30/2013 5:49:13 AM Milkyway@Home Reporting 2 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for GPU
10/30/2013 5:49:14 AM Milkyway@Home Scheduler request completed: got 2 new tasks
10/30/2013 5:49:14 AM Milkyway@Home General prefs: from Milkyway@Home (last modified 29-Oct-2013 08:46:08)
10/30/2013 5:49:14 AM Milkyway@Home Host location: none
10/30/2013 5:49:14 AM Milkyway@Home General prefs: using your defaults
10/30/2013 5:49:14 AM Reading preferences override file
10/30/2013 5:49:14 AM Preferences:
10/30/2013 5:49:14 AM max memory usage when active: 2039.88MB
10/30/2013 5:49:14 AM max memory usage when idle: 3671.78MB
10/30/2013 5:49:14 AM max disk usage: 10.00GB
10/30/2013 5:49:14 AM suspend work if non-BOINC CPU load exceeds 25 %
10/30/2013 5:49:14 AM (to change preferences, visit the web site of an attached project, or select Preferences in the Manager)
10/30/2013 5:50:20 AM Milkyway@Home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/30/2013 5:50:20 AM Milkyway@Home Requesting new tasks for GPU
10/30/2013 5:50:21 AM Milkyway@Home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/30/2013 5:50:21 AM Milkyway@Home Message from server: Project has no tasks available
10/30/2013 5:51:26 AM Milkyway@Home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/30/2013 5:51:26 AM Milkyway@Home Requesting new tasks for GPU
10/30/2013 5:51:28 AM Milkyway@Home Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
10/30/2013 5:51:28 AM Milkyway@Home Message from server: Project has no tasks available
10/30/2013 5:51:34 AM Milkyway@Home task ps_modfit_15_3s_bpl_128wrap_2_1382698503_786527_0 suspended by user
10/30/2013 5:51:34 AM Milkyway@Home task ps_modfit_15_3s_bpl_128wrap_2_1382698503_786526_0 suspended by user
10/30/2013 5:51:34 AM Milkyway@Home task ps_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174922_0 suspended by user
10/30/2013 5:51:34 AM Milkyway@Home task ps_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174921_0 suspended by user
10/30/2013 5:51:34 AM Milkyway@Home task ps_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174919_0 suspended by user
10/30/2013 5:51:34 AM Milkyway@Home task de_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174917_0 suspended by user
10/30/2013 5:51:34 AM Milkyway@Home task de_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174916_0 suspended by user
10/30/2013 5:51:34 AM Milkyway@Home task de_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174915_0 suspended by user
10/30/2013 5:51:34 AM Milkyway@Home task de_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174912_0 suspended by user
10/30/2013 5:51:34 AM Milkyway@Home task de_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174902_0 suspended by user
10/30/2013 5:51:34 AM Milkyway@Home task ps_modfit_15_3s_bpl_128wrap_2_1382698503_786525_0 suspended by user
10/30/2013 5:51:34 AM Milkyway@Home task ps_modfit_15_3s_bpl_128wrap_2_1382698503_751856_3 suspended by user
10/30/2013 5:51:36 AM Milkyway@Home Starting de_separation_DR8_84_Rev_4_1_1382698502_1674473_1
10/30/2013 5:51:36 AM Milkyway@Home Starting task de_separation_DR8_84_Rev_4_1_1382698502_1674473_1 using milkyway version 102
10/30/2013 5:51:36 AM Milkyway@Home Starting de_separation_DR8_84_Rev_4_1_1382698502_1655610_2
10/30/2013 5:51:36 AM Milkyway@Home Starting task de_separation_DR8_84_Rev_4_1_1382698502_1655610_2 using milkyway version 102
10/30/2013 5:51:38 AM SETI@home Sending scheduler request: To fetch work.
10/30/2013 5:51:38 AM SETI@home Reporting 1 completed tasks, requesting new tasks for CPU
10/30/2013 5:51:40 AM SETI@home Scheduler request completed: got 1 new tasks
10/30/2013 5:51:42 AM SETI@home Started download of 22mr08ad.22905.3753.9.12.2
10/30/2013 5:51:44 AM SETI@home Finished download of 22mr08ad.22905.3753.9.12.2
10/30/2013 5:51:44 AM Milkyway@Home Computation for task de_separation_DR8_84_Rev_4_1_1382698502_1674473_1 finished
10/30/2013 5:51:44 AM Milkyway@Home Starting de_modfit_16_3s_128wrap_1_1382698503_778990_3
10/30/2013 5:51:44 AM Milkyway@Home Starting task de_modfit_16_3s_128wrap_1_1382698503_778990_3 using milkyway_separation__modified_fit version 128
10/30/2013 5:51:45 AM Milkyway@Home Computation for task de_separation_DR8_84_Rev_4_1_1382698502_1655610_2 finished
10/30/2013 5:51:45 AM Milkyway@Home Starting de_modfit_15_3s_bpl_128wrap_2_1382698503_746194_2
10/30/2013 5:51:45 AM Milkyway@Home Starting task de_modfit_15_3s_bpl_128wrap_2_1382698503_746194_2 using milkyway_separation__modified_fit version 128
10/30/2013 5:52:20 AM Milkyway@Home task ps_modfit_15_3s_bpl_128wrap_2_1382698503_786527_0 resumed by user
10/30/2013 5:52:20 AM Milkyway@Home task ps_modfit_15_3s_bpl_128wrap_2_1382698503_786526_0 resumed by user
10/30/2013 5:52:20 AM Milkyway@Home task ps_modfit_15_3s_bpl_128wrap_2_1382698503_786525_0 resumed by user
10/30/2013 5:52:20 AM Milkyway@Home task ps_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174922_0 resumed by user
10/30/2013 5:52:20 AM Milkyway@Home task ps_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174921_0 resumed by user
10/30/2013 5:52:20 AM Milkyway@Home task ps_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174919_0 resumed by user
10/30/2013 5:52:20 AM Milkyway@Home task de_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174917_0 resumed by user
10/30/2013 5:52:20 AM Milkyway@Home task de_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174916_0 resumed by user
10/30/2013 5:52:20 AM Milkyway@Home task de_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174915_0 resumed by user
10/30/2013 5:52:20 AM Milkyway@Home task de_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174912_0 resumed by user
10/30/2013 5:52:20 AM Milkyway@Home task de_nbody_10_18_dark_1382698503_174902_0 resumed by user
10/30/2013 5:52:20 AM Milkyway@Home task ps_modfit_15_3s_bpl_128wrap_2_1382698503_751856_3 resumed by user
10/30/2013 5:52:21 AM Milkyway@Home Restarting task ps_modfit_15_3s_bpl_128wrap_2_1382698503_786527_0 using milkyway_separation__modified_fit version 128
10/30/2013 5:52:21 AM Milkyway@Home Restarting task ps_modfit_15_3s_bpl_128wrap_2_1382698503_786526_0 using milkyway_separation__modified_fit version 128
15) Message boards : Number crunching : whats up with my completion times? (Message 45452)
Posted 9 Jan 2011 by Faxon
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recently, after some project down time, i noticed that my completion times on WUs had jumped up from 1:30-1:20s on my 5870s (running different CPUs and different GPU overclocks), to 2:07-2:10 across the board. updating the project, rebooting, and detaching and reattaching to the project in BOINC didnt set it back down to 1:25. did something recently get changed in the work load per WU that makes them take longer to complete? since the down time was for so long and it took my systems some time to get work again im still working my way back up the recent average credit scales (current #23 :P), but i'd like to see myself back up around 800k again and im concerned that my WU completion time will have an effect on that. any comments from the staff, or advice on how to fix this? the TeAm over at anandtech is usually not very in the know on these type of issues since most of them spend their time working for F@H, and im doing my best to keep our milkyway team alive and kicking :)




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