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1) Message boards : News : Separation Application Shutting Down on Tuesday, Jun 20th (Message 76473)
Posted 1 Nov 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
Post:
well it was dead for two weeks before you just bumped it...

+1
sorry - need at the least new specs
have been away for a while and just wanted to post something "useless"
cheers S-F-V
2) Message boards : News : Migrating MilkyWay@home to a New Server (Message 76472)
Posted 1 Nov 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
Post:
Some of us do not have access to Facebook...

++1
3) Message boards : News : Separation Application Shutting Down on Tuesday, Jun 20th (Message 76311)
Posted 26 Jul 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
Post:
This thread definetly needs a shutdown itself ...
4) Message boards : News : Server Maintenance 6/28/2023 12 PM EDT (4 PM UTC) (Message 76033)
Posted 28 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
Post:
Hey Everyone,

I'll be shutting the server down for about an hour or two tomorrow at noon EDT (4 PM UTC) to take care of the loads of WUs stuck waiting for validation. They are from leftover Separation WUs trickling in after the project was shut off. Unfortunately I do not think that credit will be given out for these stuck WUs, as they were turned in after the project was shut down, and the validator is not running to give people credit.

N-body WUs will not be affected by this, and all credit will be assigned as per usual for N-body WUs.

Best,
Tom

THANKS for also stating UTC time.
AND I mean it !!
5) Message boards : News : Server Maintenance 6/28/2023 12 PM EDT (4 PM UTC) (Message 76031)
Posted 28 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
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If I understand you post correctly you plan to purge all tasks awaiting validation and not award any points, even those turned in before the shutdown. Correct me if I'm misunderstanding, but if so that is completely unacceptable. The vast majority if not all of my pending tasks were completed before the shutdown, so your statement about the pending task being completed after shutdown doesn't seem accurate. I'm sure a lot of others with a significant amount of hardware pointed at this project are in a similar boat. I have over 19k validation pending or inconclusive tasks. I completed the work, so you need to award points, that's the deal between us. If you screwed up the validation process that's on you and not the users. If milkyway can't abide by that and make things right, then they shouldn't have access to Boinc and it's users.. The level of desrespect from admins of multiple boinc projects shown to contributers is really annoying, but screwing over users on points at this scale is a new one for me. The short notice and haphazard shutdown are ridiculous. Make it right or only do computation on your own hardware at this point. You just need to award points to every submitted task at this point, that saves you from actually validating the task and doesn't screw over the users. I will not contribute and will discourage others to contribute to this proejct unless thsi is fixed properly, and I've screenshotted my tasks so I have a good idea on what points I should receive.

Oh my goodness ...
6) Message boards : News : Server Maintenance 6/28/2023 12 PM EDT (4 PM UTC) (Message 76030)
Posted 28 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
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Tom, if it is possible, I would love to get credits for the 9,429 work units that I have in Validation Pending. It might take extra time on your part, but I, and a whole lot of other people would sure appreciate it.

Please read the posts in this thread ...
7) Message boards : News : Server Maintenance 6/28/2023 12 PM EDT (4 PM UTC) (Message 76029)
Posted 28 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
Post:
I have over 15000 work units waiting for validation. Just dumping them and not rewarding credits will make me rethink supporting this project.


They are not dumping the NBody tasks just the Separation tasks, the Separation tasks you are crunching and have crunched mean nothing to the database anymore so giving you credit isn't the Scientific Method of doing things. YES they could have done this shutdown ALOT differently as MANY people have pointed out but what's done is done and woulda coulda shoulda isn't going to fix it.


The problem is that 99.9% of them are the separation tasks. At least giving credit for doing the work is the least they can do.

remember: we are volunteers -- that includes all (expectable) problems. this is also true for other projects or life experiences.
That is part of science -- no one is free of failures.
Have a case of beer on me!
8) Message boards : News : Server Maintenance 6/28/2023 12 PM EDT (4 PM UTC) (Message 76028)
Posted 28 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
Post:
I have over 15000 work units waiting for validation. Just dumping them and not rewarding credits will make me rethink supporting this project.


They are not dumping the NBody tasks just the Separation tasks, the Separation tasks you are crunching and have crunched mean nothing to the database anymore so giving you credit isn't the Scientific Method of doing things. YES they could have done this shutdown ALOT differently as MANY people have pointed out but what's done is done and woulda coulda shoulda isn't going to fix it.

+1
9) Message boards : News : Server Maintenance 6/28/2023 12 PM EDT (4 PM UTC) (Message 76027)
Posted 28 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
Post:
I have over 15000 work units waiting for validation. Just dumping them and not rewarding credits will make me rethink supporting this project.

Wonder how you managed to get so many unvalidated tasks?
10) Message boards : News : Server Maintenance 6/28/2023 12 PM EDT (4 PM UTC) (Message 76026)
Posted 28 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
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So true Mikey

... don't understand your answer.
The messages in the NOTICE tab of BOINC are usually gone after reading them.
11) Message boards : News : Server Maintenance 6/28/2023 12 PM EDT (4 PM UTC) (Message 76025)
Posted 28 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
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"(...) yet you use the data."
Actually they have said they will not use this data for anything.

+1
but actually the worry is about waisting 1.75 hours of electricity (not time).
Things like this are to be expected.
If one wants "dead sure" valuated results, then maybe a consideration for a different non "expensive" pastime is due?
12) Message boards : News : Server Maintenance 6/28/2023 12 PM EDT (4 PM UTC) (Message 76024)
Posted 28 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
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.... great user name !
13) Message boards : News : Server Maintenance 6/28/2023 12 PM EDT (4 PM UTC) (Message 76023)
Posted 28 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
Post:
Hi,
Please clean up your BOINC notices they're filling up my notice screen and they are now obsolete.
Thanks

+1
14) Message boards : News : Separation Application Shutting Down on Tuesday, Jun 20th (Message 75751)
Posted 20 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
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And what I'm assuming is "a lot" of electricity required to power the GPUs to do work that will have no scientific value.
Only 2 more days but still very wasteful.


But still probably ALOT less wasteful than all those CEO's etc flying to Switzerland on their private jets to attend a conference on 'saving energy'.
Exactly!


yes, exactly !

But walking to Switzerland is a bit tedious, but in deed saving energy.

I know, I know, there is always the live conference option ...

This thread is getting to be fun to follow.

A beer on me to all of the posters.

cheers S-F-V
15) Message boards : News : Separation Project Coming To An End (Message 75506)
Posted 14 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
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Tom Donlon :

Very true ...

S-F-V
16) Message boards : News : Separation Project Coming To An End (Message 75505)
Posted 14 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
Post:
Ian&Steve C. :

Very well said ...

S-F-V
17) Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia RTX 4090 faster than Radeon Pro VII, despite much worse FP64 performance? (Message 75482)
Posted 12 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
Post:
...
However, with tweaks the Titan V performs much closer to the G/V100 as it should. G/V100 ends up still be a little faster but not by much.
...

Yes, but I look at it this way:

TITAN V 8 tasks at once -- stable (10 ok but sometimes unstable)

GV100 14 tasks at once -- stable (16 ok but sometimes unstable)

My wording was VERY misunderstandable

Thanks for the interesting feedback.
I appreciate it !

S-F-V
18) Message boards : Number crunching : Nvidia RTX 4090 faster than Radeon Pro VII, despite much worse FP64 performance? (Message 75480)
Posted 11 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
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...
FYI, a Titan V will outperform both of these cards.

Yes, definitely.
FYI: The GV100 "kills" the Titan V
19) Message boards : News : New N-Body Runs (Message 75479)
Posted 11 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
Post:
easier way.

Google: "BOINC Client Config"

click the first link.

+1
Excellent - never thought about this possibility.

But, as I said somewhere before, I (personally) sort of like/prefer the long way.
It costs time, but I always enjoy finding some other interesting things along the way ...

Have a nice Sunday

S-F-V
20) Message boards : News : New N-Body Runs (Message 75417)
Posted 1 Jun 2023 by San-Fernando-Valley
Post:
Marko:
.....
And where can I find more information about this app_config file, that sounds like something I want to check out later when I have more time.

I'll try to show you how to find informations about the app_config parameter:

---- 1. In BOINC Manager advanced screen go to the "Help" tab
------- 2. In the dropdown menu select "BOINC help"
---------- 3. In the new browser window on the left side under "resources" select "User Manual"
------------- 4. In the next window under "Running BOINC: advanced" select "Client configuration"
---------------- 5. In the next window further down select "Project-level configuration"
------------------- 6.There you should find a desciption for the parm named app_config
---------------------- 7. If not, then I messed up these instructions !

Have a nice day
S-F-V

(I'm sure someone will point out an easier way to get there)


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