sounds like a skill issue. if you can't code just say that.

Nobody can code or there wouldn't be bugs.

only silver medal in the Mental Gymnastics and Logical Fallacy Biathlon this time.

gotta try harder next time.

Are you incapable of an adult discussion? We all know every program ever written is full of bugs, therefore programmers are morons. Even the design of the programs are all wrong, take a look at the mess they've made of Windows.

We're not talking about BOINC's built in benchmark. Which in itself is worthless. We're talking about benchmarking software such as Cinebench, 3DMark and others.

Some people are just too dumb to read about those benchmarks and see what they are actually benchmarking. They just look at the numbers like wow, that must be good.

Tired of repeating myself to someone who refuses to learn anything.

And I'm tired of you not understanding it's very easy to write a benchmark which tests everything, then you could have a gaming score, a video editing score, a Boinc type score, etc, etc. All you need is a bunch of instructions of the type used in these projects.

I don't know what your argument is. I posted a screenshot that explained how that web site got their benchmark totals. It claims to use some "top secret formula" which basically means, they have no idea. Just plugging in numbers. I avoid sites that don't go into detail on how they get their results because it's poppy cock at best.

You said the sites were guessing, but they don't have to get a CPU themselves to test it, if the benchmark suite they use is available to the public, which a lot are, they can look at what scores users got. .

The problem is do you run Boinc at 100% cpu usage or 90% or even 80 or less percent? That all needs to be factored in when you are using someone elses benchmark numbers. We can 'assume' alot of things but if you don't do it yourself there are ALOT of variables that can affect how benchmark numbers are arrived at.

I assumed if they haven't got their own, they use tests users have done with their software and average them. I know some do. I've run benchmark software on my own computer then it lets you compare with other people who have used it, so you know if your CPU is working properly.

Why on earth not? Just write a program which does each of the sorts of calculations proper programs do.

As I said before. Benchmarks you find on sites like that do not benchmark for the niche market BOINC is in.

They target gamers mostly, but also office work and audio/video production/editing.

Bench marks are not the be all and end all for the testing of a CPU, as no single bench mark does every thing (at least as far as I have seen), it there was a single bench mark that could test every thing then they would not have to run a "Test Suite" to see how a CPU preforms they could just run one programme.

Why is a benchmark not simply running a test suite? When I find a list of benchmarks on a website, they should have run a variety of programs to come up with that value.

How are Validation inconclusive on the FINISHED Separation project being validated?
There is a trickle being validated.

And the dictionary is right there. I said "maybe". There has to be some reason it's rubbish at running the benchmark. Like I told Ian&Steve, a benchmark is just aprogram, and his CPU isn't very good at it.

Not possible with so many Boinc projects.

And yet it can't run benchmarks very well. There's something up with it.

Gaming is still numbers, angles of trajectories of light and moving objects. Just like er.... physics in LHC, Milkyway, Universe.

Yeah, that all makes sense. Sorry for the anguish everyone.

Well something is making it rubbish at benchmarks. Benchmarks are just a program, which means you have a CPU good at certain things only.

Perhaps.... your CPU is very fast at Universe since it's a simple program, even my 8 core Android runs it. Maybe your CPU has a tiny cache or something and can't cope with bigger programs like Cinebench, so falls flat on the floor for benchmarks. I'll stick to the tried and tested benchmark scores, not what you happened to have found it's good at. Maybe someone can recite the alphabet really fast, doesn't mean they're exceedingly clever.

I just recently "upped" the utilization of my new computer's CPU. I have a 5995 Threadripper Pro with 64 core CPUs. Until today, I had run at a 50% CPU utilization. Currently I am running ~ 65-75% core utilization. I am nervously increasing the amount of CPU utilization. When I first downloaded BOINC to this new computer I ran it at almost 100% utilization and could barely get in to stop the program as it took over the computer.

My question is this: How much CPU % utilization can I run without the BOINC program blocking me out and wreaking havoc?

PS I was a longtime SETI & milky way BOINC utilizer, moving from 4 core to 7 cores.

Thanks for any guidance.

check mine.

Bloody showoff. First in total credit, but someone is running slightly faster than you! Can't see what computers he has though.

Your feedback told us to turn off the project ASAP

I doubt many folk would look through several hosts to help someone, they'd ask.

If it wasn't a fact I wouldn't think it was.

I've checked between my hosts, some are a lot faster than others, look at my 4 core ones.

I have two Ryzens. The X is in the garage, the XT is the house one. The garage also has two xeons and four misc 4 core machines.

There's a remote thing in the BIOS of the xeons, I thought all servers did that. I don't bother using it as all I need access to is Windows or Boinc via Boinctasks. If it screws up so I can't get to it on the network, there's a keyboard, mouse, monitor in the garage I can use.

So you often change the overclock depending what project you run? I don't overclock, more hassle than it's worth. The only thing I turn above stock is the power limit on GPUs, and that's easy to adjust in MSI Afterburner in Windows.

Shy about your own hosts I see.

Not enough information. Link to hosts on the actual project, then we can see how long they take per task. You don't know if they're only doing Universe. Also is it hyperthreading or not? I have HT on.

Also having more PCs makes it easier to attach lots of GPUs.

Not interested in efficiency. I have a 21 year old car. I could buy a newer one and use less fuel, but I can't be bothered, and it would cost more to buy.

Actually it just omits the name. Anonymous refers to a host without listing the owner. Not sure why it hides the name since I've said to not hide anything. It would be easier to say "the computer called Jenny is crashing tasks frequently" and everyone would know which one it was. Now I have to say which one by other means, like "the Xeon, no not that one, the other one, er.... the one with slightly less credits."

On gerasim it hides both list and computers.

I stand corrected, the page seems to show different things depending if you're logged in as that person or not. I made an assumption unhiding would unhide everything. Strange, I'm sure I've discussed faulty units on one of the projects and referred to one of my computer names, and nobody said they didn't know which one to look at.

Why do you say everything twice?

With GPUs presumably. And you should have used the past tense, seperation is gone.

Ryzen 9 CPU and MB are not 15 years old, and the point is it costs far less to buy a few of those, which total more work than your one.

Not according to cpubenchmark.net - of course there's probably more than one model of EPYC with 128 threads.

I do so mainly because all but one of my machines are in another building. It boots fine without, I guess it's just harder to troubleshoot without remote desktop. Older machines (maybe you have to go back decades) just bleeped or something if you started them with no graphics card.

I edit the BIOS once, when I build the PC. Why ever touch it again?

I used my own real world data. My machines have certain relative speeds on cpubenchmark.net. On most projects the times taken for a task tally up.

Limit is a simpler concept than charged plates rolled up in a small container.

So you only boast when provoked?

So "hidden" only hides the list?

Odd, considering you claim to know so much about them. Binman?

Because you're hiding them. You can see my host names, anyone can. You chose to hide them.

I assume you have more than that or you wouldn't have the points you do here.

$1285 2nd hand from China. I only checked Ebay. AliExpress is $1105+sales tax ends up worse.

That totals a lot of money, I bought my MBs for $50. PSUs were $20.

What on earth gave you that insane idea? Running headless is up to the OS and nothing to do with the CPU, and Windows 11 is doing it fine on my Ryzen 9s. I can even connect with the built in Windows Remote Desktop.

I checked the benchmark on cpubenchmark.net. It seems a pretty good match for the average Boinc project.

Ah, so it's him using "cap" in a less intelligent sense.

And no reason to hide it.

And yet earlier you boasted you had a PC faster than my entire fleet.

Plus it lets people discuss problems with dodgy workunits when they can view your computers' tasks.

Unless "skillz" is the IT dept.

Never heard of CAD?

Yes it would. If his boss were to see (or someone in here grassed him off) computer names he knew were names of computers on his network. And why would he have to be in the tech industry? I used to do it at a high school I worked at. I had about 300 computers connected, although they were all budget CPUs with no graphics cards.

The electricity is expensive unless you bypass the meter or have solar panels.

I looked up a 128 core version and they're very expensive. The Ryzen 9 range is better value.

Those are needed for voltage stabilising. Have they got better VRMs? Nothing to do with the CPU.

Then why are you hiding them? If you really have huge computing power, wouldn't you want to show it off?

That's cute. Just one of my computers is more powerful than your entire fleet. LMAO

Are you sure they're yours or are you borrowing them from your boss when he isn't looking and using his electricity? Because you've chosen to keep them anonymous, funny that.

Skillz said

It doesn't affect the results. Those tasks are so old and computers today are so much faster a 16 core CPU is many times faster than 64 or 128 core systems from years ago.

Tell me that you wouldn't run an Epyc 128cpu core setup if you could get one cheap enough? I most certainly would!!