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21) Message boards : News : started a new search called 'ps_separation_10_2s_sample_2' (Message 54914)
Posted 26 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
So Matt Arsenault is telling me that the ATI 0.82 is deprecated and you should be using the newer OpenCL version.

Not possible on an ATI HD3850, it has no OpenCL support.

Just processed 6 'ps_separation_10_2s_sample_2' tasks quite happily on my HD3850.

O/S is XP SP3 (32-bit).

I wonder if my earlier message on a different thread simply didn't get through. I'll try again here:-

HD3850 XP SP3 (32-bit) works.
HD3850 W7 SP1 (64-bit) failed.
22) Message boards : News : testing work generation with 'ps_separation_14_2s_null_3' (Message 54808)
Posted 18 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
So anyway ...

W7 64-bit/HD3850 AGP & existing MW@H GPU tasks ALL fail with "Computation error"
whereas ...
XP 32-bit/HD3850 AGP & existing MW@H GPU tasks work OK.
All SETI/Catalyst/etc the same on the same hardware.

What are your thoughts?
23) Message boards : News : testing work generation with 'ps_separation_14_2s_null_3' (Message 54801)
Posted 17 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
Even with an app_info to try and control GPU% didn't help.

I use ATI Tray Tools rather than BOINC settings.
With ATI Tray Tools I can:-
a) set a custom fan profile (the fan profile in the standard driver had a major flaw)
b) set a custom VDDC (I'm currently running one HD3850 at 0.975V at full speed and a "problem", hot-running HD3850 at 1.014V) rather than the standard 1.254V
c) set the GPU & memory speeds (to +/- 2mhz. The "problem" HD3850 has a GPU speed set to 567mhz rather than the 669mhz standard & memory at full speed)
With ATI Tray tools set as above these cards do not exceed 55C at +/- 100% load, fan @ 60% max with lots of fresh, filtered airflow. OK, it's a cool summer here in the UK - overnight ambient 16.6C & breezy :-)

Why? Hot=inefficient=more current IIRC.
Sorry, no idea why 0.82 is better than 1.02 by 78W/0.65A @ 119V AC

24) Message boards : News : testing work generation with 'ps_separation_14_2s_null_3' (Message 54797)
Posted 16 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
... it's just software.

Exactly the point I have been trying to make for a couple of weeks. And exactly why I did the latest exercise just to prove it's not hardware.
Specifically, it's new MW@H tasks.
Older MW@H tasks worked fine on the same hardware & W7 64-bit:- see my earlier posts which explain it all.

I use a 3850 AGP on WinXP32. (only to let ya know it is not 64bit only).

dskagcommunity ... looking back on your posts they are different from the errors I got. Compare my working BOINC version/driver deails posted earlier with yours. Also worth checking that all .NET updates are, erm, up to date and flush old tasks then try the latest ... at various points in the past couple of weeks there have been a few false starts with generating new WU's that work.
25) Message boards : News : testing work generation with 'ps_separation_14_2s_null_3' (Message 54794)
Posted 16 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
Sorry to harp on again about the HD3850 AGP issue ...

Replaced Windows 7 SP1 (64-bit) with XP SP3 (32-bit) - so, same hardware. All .NET/drivers/updates/BOINC reinstalled (see previous post for details).
Since last night I have downloaded fresh new WUs and processed over 70 GPU tasks OK (one fail, probably a fluke during update of .NET).
So ...
W7 64-bit/HD3850 AGP & existing MW@H GPU tasks ALL fail with "Computation error"
whereas ...
XP 32-bit/HD3850 AGP & existing MW@H GPU tasks work OK.

What do you reckon?
26) Message boards : News : started a new search 'ps_separation_14_2s_05_3_test_1' (Message 54770)
Posted 12 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
Still trying.

Another GPU-task fail on the 64-bit, HD3850 W7 SP1 rig - spec as before ...

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=227629072

And another one:-

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=227629073


4 days on, still getting Computation Error, as before, on the latest tasks e.g., downloaded & started 12 minutes earlier - completed 12/06/2012 23:01:32 ps_separation_14_2s_05_3_test_1_1339497601_292769_0

Is anyone working on this error?
27) Message boards : News : started a new search 'ps_separation_14_2s_05_3_test_1' (Message 54715)
Posted 8 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
Still trying.

Another GPU-task fail on the 64-bit, HD3850 W7 SP1 rig - spec as before ...

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=227629072

And another one:-

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=227629073

28) Message boards : News : started a new search 'ps_separation_14_2s_05_3_test_1' (Message 54710)
Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
I'm trying to address the errors people have been having
... with HD3850 (AGP) cards.

ps_separation_14_2s_05_3_test_1_etc

XP Pro SP3 (32 bit) all OK.
W7 Pro SP1 (64 bit) all fail.

To clarify, from yesterday, in a different thread.
XP & W7 drivers:-
88.81 / 11.8
Catalyst Control Center Version
XP 2011.0728.1723.29300 (works) BOINC 6.12.34
W7 2011.0728.1756.30366 (later - doesn't work) BOINC 6.12.34
W7 PC has been cold-booted, XP PC has not i.e., still running since yesterday.


So these new workunits are still all failing for you on 64 bit systems?

Yes ...

... with HD3850 (AGP) cards.

ps_separation_14_2s_05_3_test_1_etc

XP Pro SP3 (32 bit) all OK.
W7 Pro SP1 (64 bit) all fail.


See examples ...
32-bit:- http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=178894528 (OK, Computer number 231173)
64-bit:- http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/workunit.php?wuid=179304182 (fail, Computer number 446288 Exit status -1073740940 (0xffffffffc0000374) Unknown error number.)
29) Message boards : News : started a new search 'ps_separation_14_2s_05_3_test_1' (Message 54698)
Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
I'm trying to address the errors people have been having
... with HD3850 (AGP) cards.

ps_separation_14_2s_05_3_test_1_etc

XP Pro SP3 (32 bit) all OK.
W7 Pro SP1 (64 bit) all fail.

To clarify, from yesterday, in a different thread.
XP & W7 drivers:-
88.81 / 11.8
Catalyst Control Center Version
XP 2011.0728.1723.29300 (works) BOINC 6.12.34
W7 2011.0728.1756.30366 (later - doesn't work) BOINC 6.12.34
W7 PC has been cold-booted, XP PC has not i.e., still running since yesterday.
30) Message boards : News : work should be flowing now (Message 54697)
Posted 7 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
ps_separation_14_2s_null_3_v4_1338761702_117_1 - OK!!!

W7 64-bit HD2400 PCI yes ... that's PCI not AGP/PCIe!

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=225810585
(Click "Computer ID 363659")

BOINC 6.12.34

On for 24/7/365 no restarts in over 2 weeks.

Yes, you read that right - PCI/HD2400/W7 64-bit works!
FWIW It's a custom built headless server. Std M/B, custom GPU fan, custom wired case circa 2002


Ooops - my bad! That was a CPU task not a GPU task. :blush:

31) Message boards : News : work should be flowing now (Message 54681)
Posted 6 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
ps_separation_14_2s_null_3_v4_1338761702_117_1 - OK!!!

W7 64-bit HD2400 PCI yes ... that's PCI not AGP/PCIe!

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=225810585
(Click "Computer ID 363659")

BOINC 6.12.34

On for 24/7/365 no restarts in over 2 weeks.

Yes, you read that right - PCI/HD2400/W7 64-bit works!
FWIW It's a custom built headless server. Std M/B, custom GPU fan, custom wired case circa 2002
32) Message boards : News : work should be flowing now (Message 54680)
Posted 6 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
GPU tasks only:-
50% success

For WUs ps_separation_14_2s_null_3_v4_etc

XP (32 bit) - OK
W7 (64 bit) - all fail

HD3850 (AGP):-

XP & W7 drivers:-
88.81 / 11.8
Catalyst Control Center Version
XP 2011.0728.1723.29300 (works) BOINC 6.12.34
W7 2011.0728.1756.30366 (later - doesn't work) BOINC 6.12.34

(PS: nice way to erase previous horror stories. Just remove the last "News" then post a new "News" message.)
33) Message boards : News : testing work generation with 'ps_separation_14_2s_null_3' (Message 54634)
Posted 3 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
... PS:- Collatz still happily crunching brand new* GPU tasks using the same "old version of your ATI application".

*downloaded from 9pm today (2nd June).

As I said, nothing new here aside from the latest MW@H GPU tasks consistently failing.
34) Message boards : News : testing work generation with 'ps_separation_14_2s_null_3' (Message 54630)
Posted 2 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
To recap:- on my PCs ...
The current batch(es) of GPU WUs fail.
The previous batches ran sucessfully.
Others report the same issue.

There has been no ATI application/driver change at this end.

I thought the only change was to create new work i.e.,
I'm testing work generation right now, there should be workunits available to download now. Let me know how these workunits are crunching!

Matt A. says it's because of the old version of your ATI application.

Has there been an unannounced update to MW@H crunching requirement(s)?
35) Message boards : News : testing work generation with 'ps_separation_14_2s_null_3' (Message 54622)
Posted 2 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
Nope:- still erroring, details below ...

Task 225600128
Ray_GTI-R | log out
Name ps_separation_14_2s_null_3_v4_1338660883_41090_1
Workunit 178349109
Created 2 Jun 2012 | 20:15:08 UTC
Sent 2 Jun 2012 | 20:15:53 UTC
Received 2 Jun 2012 | 20:32:07 UTC
Server state Over
Outcome Computation error
Client state Compute error
Exit status 1 (0x1) Unknown error number
Computer ID 231173
Report deadline 14 Jun 2012 | 20:15:53 UTC
Run time 448.03
CPU time 4.86
Validate state Invalid
Credit 0.00
Application version MilkyWay@Home v0.82 (ati14)

Stderr output
<core_client_version>6.12.34</core_client_version>
<![CDATA[
<message>
Incorrect function. (0x1) - exit code 1 (0x1)
</message>
<stderr_txt>
Using SSE2 path
Found 1 CAL devices
Chose device 0

Device target: CAL_TARGET_670
Revision: 41
CAL Version: 1.4.1523
Engine clock: 668 Mhz
Memory clock: 828 Mhz
GPU RAM: 512
Wavefront size: 64
Double precision: CAL_TRUE
Compute shader: CAL_FALSE
Number SIMD: 4
Number shader engines: 1
Pitch alignment: 256
Surface alignment: 256
Max size 2D: { 8192, 8192 }

Estimated iteration time 660.343376 ms
Target frequency 30.000000 Hz, polling mode 1
Dividing into 19 chunks, initially sleeping for 0 ms
Integration range: { nu_steps = 640, mu_steps = 1600, r_steps = 1400 }
Using 19 chunk(s) with sizes: 80 80 80 96 80 80 80 96 80 80 80 96 80 80 96 80 80 80 96
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Integration time = 442.362278 s, average per iteration = 691.191059 ms
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Failed to map resource: Operational error (CAL_RESULT_ERROR)
Failed to release CAL resource
Integral 0 time = 446.066926 s
Failed to calculate integral 0
21:31:13 (2680): called boinc_finish

</stderr_txt>
]]>


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36) Message boards : News : testing work generation with 'ps_separation_14_2s_null_3' (Message 54604)
Posted 2 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
To be clear:-

PC #A is 446288 (all but one old WU consistently fail, post-e.g., 1st June, 22:00 UTC).
PC #B is 231173 (all old tasks complete OK, no new tasks for days as switched off).

Can you point me to where you see PC #A (446288, post- 1st June, about 22:00 UTC) succeed processing any but that one [old] GPU task?
Apologies if I've got any of this wrong. I'm not an expert, just a cruncher.
37) Message boards : News : testing work generation with 'ps_separation_14_2s_null_3' (Message 54602)
Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
GPU-only tasks tested ...

PC #A
Just completed a ps_separation_09 task, OK
All else fails with computation eror at 100% completion:- ps_separation_14_2s_null_3_v2, v3, v4, ps_separation_14_2s_05_03
I have restarted, cold booted and detached/reattached. Same problem as above.
Result:-
Will suspend project and abort existing ps_separation_14 tasks until a fix is in place.

PC #B (only now switched it on after a couple of days, so no recent tasks have been loaded yet)
Completing ps_separation_09 tasks (7 of them so far), OK
Result:-
I've switched to "No new tasks" for now.

For those with headless/unattended servers, you're going to either be busy for a while or else waste a lot of electricity doing nothing until a fix is found.
38) Message boards : News : testing work generation with 'ps_separation_14_2s_null_3' (Message 54593)
Posted 1 Jun 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
Same for me, Computer 427419.
Will credits be given for completed work that fail this way?
Thanks.
39) Message boards : Number crunching : no new MilkyWay@Home v0.82 (ati14) tasks. (Message 53463)
Posted 28 Feb 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
From a post elswhere, hereabouts.

24 hours & no new MilkyWay@Home v0.82 (ati14) tasks.

I'll keep trying :-)
40) Message boards : Number crunching : All work Units giving "Computational Error" (Message 53454)
Posted 27 Feb 2012 by Profile Ray_GTI-R
Post:
Same for my base PC with HD3850. See:-

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=117260051

Also not getting any new MilkyWay@Home v0.82 (ati14) tasks for a couple of days on that PC e.g.,
27/02/2012 02:19:16 | Cosmology@Home | Requesting new tasks for ATI GPU
27/02/2012 02:19:18 | Cosmology@Home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks

Correction:- restarted and now almost OK, see previously-saved WU and the result

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=120300292

Still ... no new MilkyWay@Home v0.82 (ati14) tasks.


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