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1) Message boards : Number crunching : WUs completed from "-new" URL (Message 76651)
Posted 23 hours ago by Profile mikey
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There is something going on with the project, unable to upload or download any new or completed wu's


They are getting rid of the "-new" name on the Server so you either do the workaround posted above/below depending on how you read this or abort them and remove and reattach again. I have pointed this out to the Admin in the News section but they haven't responded yet.
2) Message boards : News : Migrating MilkyWay@home to a New Server (Message 76650)
Posted 23 hours ago by Profile mikey
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See that milkyway-new.cs.rpi.edu is not resolving to an IP?
;milkyway-new.cs.rpi.edu. IN A

added line to hosts to map the milkyway.cs.rpi.edu to -new
128.113.126.54 milkyway-new.cs.rpi.edu

And that allowed complete work unit to be uploaded.

Don't know if a new update needs to be done??


We have changed the DNS setting such that milkyway-new no longer exists and the url milkyway.cs.rpi.edu points directly to the server IP and is not longer a cname for the server.
I am going through and changing everything on the server to reflect that change.


So how do we return completed work now that the -new address which is where the 'new' client is pointing too? If we remove and reattach all of our work will be lost.
3) Message boards : Number crunching : Thread to report issues after server migration (Message 76636)
Posted 3 days ago by Profile mikey
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Marcin wrote:
another issue to report!
I am getting hostname resolution errors now:
[code]34852: 19-Nov-2023 11:13:37 (low) [Milkyway@home] Sending scheduler request: To report completed tasks.
34853: 19-Nov-2023 11:13:37 (low) [Milkyway@home] Reporting 1 completed tasks
34854: 19-Nov-2023 11:13:37 (low) [Milkyway@home] Not requesting tasks: don't need (job cache full)
34855: 19-Nov-2023 11:13:42 (low) [] Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
34856: 19-Nov-2023 11:13:42 (low) [Milkyway@home] Scheduler request failed: Couldn't resolve host name



[quote]It seems that I can eliminate the issue locally in the client by shutting down the client, removing the <scheduler_url>url</scheduler_url> line from client_state.xml, and restarting the client. But that's just a workaround of course, the real fix needs to happen on the server.


I have 17 pc's running here at my home and get that at every Project over the course of a day as I manually update them, I REALLY dislike seeing a whole page of completed tasks sitting there waiting to be returned and also dislike seeing tasks that are stuck uploading so I will keep clicking until they get returned or uploaded as the case may be. Now if your 'fix' really does fix it then I wonder if it's the change-over to https from http that is causing the problems I'm seeing at all the other projects?
4) Questions and Answers : Macintosh : No Work? (Message 76633)
Posted 8 days ago by Profile mikey
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I hadn’t been paying attention for a while—seems my iMac hasn’t done any work since June. Is there any point to remaining attached to this project, or is it the end of the road?


It's possible but not likely in the near future, there ARE people trying a various projects to offer their assistance in getting Mac OS apps up nd running but that is not as easy as it sounds for projects with very little continuity in their Boinc support, like MilkyWay.
5) Message boards : News : Migrating MilkyWay@home to a New Server (Message 76620)
Posted 13 days ago by Profile mikey
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I don't see anything (official) on website where the correct URL is.

It appears Kevin needs to let Willy @ BAM! know what the correct URL is because it's not pointing to it.

I posted to the thread in the number crunching but apparently that info hasn't been relayed over...


Just use the one listed in the Boinc Manager and you will be fine

techincally it's: https://milkyway-new.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/
6) Message boards : Number crunching : Thread to report issues after server migration (Message 76618)
Posted 14 days ago by Profile mikey
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I'm on WIndows 10 with latest BOINC client and can't get any work.


Go to your preferences and enable tasks for Milkyway@home N-Body Simulation

Respectfully
Bill F



Nbody was checked on both main and work preferences. The only thing not checked was run other applications on work. I checked it, saved it and tried it again...

First try, I had a moment and smacked myself for not turning work fetch on...

Second try client requested work, but didn't get any:

[11/15/23 7:26:44 PM | Milkyway@home | [sched_op] CPU work request: 34560.00 seconds; 1.00 devices
11/15/23 7:26:47 PM |  | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
11/15/23 7:26:47 PM | Milkyway@home | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
11/15/23 7:26:47 PM | Milkyway@home | [sched_op] Server version 721
11/15/23 7:26:47 PM | Milkyway@home | This project seems to have changed its URL.  When convenient, remove the project, then add http://milkyway-new.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/
11/15/23 7:26:47 PM | Milkyway@home | No tasks sent
11/15/23 7:26:47 PM | Milkyway@home | Project requested delay of 91 seconds
11/15/23 7:26:47 PM | Milkyway@home | [sched_op] Deferring communication for 00:01:31
11/15/23 7:26:47 PM | Milkyway@home | [sched_op] Reason: requested by project
11/15/23 7:26:48 PM |  | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.


It did an auto-try a couple mins later and failed to get any work again.


You need to delete the Project from the Boinc Manager and then add it back in agaIn thru the Boinc Manager because it slightly changed it's name when it went to the new Server and your milkyway.xml file has the old name in it.
7) Message boards : Number crunching : Thread to report issues after server migration (Message 76611)
Posted 16 days ago by Profile mikey
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As mentioned by others, credit stats export is not working yet. I am not sure where 3rd party sites (free-dc, boincstats, …) got their stats files from before the maintenance downtime. But at least the expected place http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/stats/ (or https, or/and milkyway-new if you will) is empty.


This should be working now (at least the stats seem to be in the directory). Let me know if there is still an issue with stats.


Mine showed up tonight thankyou very much!!
8) Message boards : News : Migrating MilkyWay@home to a New Server (Message 76604)
Posted 21 days ago by Profile mikey
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Well, it worked! Went to “simple view”, deleted Milky Way. Then I added it back in. Said that I was an existing user, just like as if I got a new computer. Sure enough, I got 1 task, then a whole bunch of them. So a couple of questions, do I need to do this to all my machines? If so, should I do it now, or wait until they finish up the work units that they have? Thanks everyone for the help. Angie


No you do not the Admin said that the new url points to the old url and is defining the new server versus the old server and all the internal stuff is setup so no changes are needed.
9) Message boards : News : Migrating MilkyWay@home to a New Server (Message 76601)
Posted 21 days ago by Profile mikey
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How do I even remove the project? In the BOINC client under the projects tab the remove button is greyed out for me for this project?


Did you select the MilkyWay Project on the list first?

A 2nd question is why would you? If you are done crunching just set it to no new tasks and then suspend it as well, no communications between your Boinc and the Project will happen again until you unsuspend the Project. The Admin said that changing because of the "-new" address is not needed because they are linking to both the site with the "-new" as well as the site witout the "-new".


1. Yes, I have the project selected

2. I thought earlier they asked to remove and re-add the project? I missed the other message. In the BOINC client it still says "Milkyway@home: Notice from BOINC
This project seems to have changed its URL. When convenient, remove the project, then add http://milkyway-new.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/"


Yes it does still say that but the Admin said they would continue to use redirection tools to ensure everyone gets to the right place. ESPECIALLY since they are/were having problems logging back on again I would NOT delete anything.
10) Message boards : News : Migrating MilkyWay@home to a New Server (Message 76594)
Posted 22 days ago by Profile mikey
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How do I even remove the project? In the BOINC client under the projects tab the remove button is greyed out for me for this project?


Did you select the MilkyWay Project on the list first?

A 2nd question is why would you? If you are done crunching just set it to no new tasks and then suspend it as well, no communications between your Boinc and the Project will happen again until you unsuspend the Project. The Admin said that changing because of the "-new" address is not needed because they are linking to both the site with the "-new" as well as the site witout the "-new".
11) Message boards : Number crunching : Thread to report issues after server migration (Message 76591)
Posted 22 days ago by Profile mikey
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It's definitely certificate related on my Linux Docker.
Running this command on my mac works, but on my container it returns an error.
curl https://milkyway-new.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/get_project_config.php -v

Results on Docker:
root@84d5ad767049:/tmp/certs# curl https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/get_project_config.php -v
*   Trying 128.113.126.54:443...
* Connected to milkyway.cs.rpi.edu (128.113.126.54) port 443 (#0)
* ALPN, offering h2
* ALPN, offering http/1.1
*  CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt
*  CApath: /etc/ssl/certs
* TLSv1.0 (OUT), TLS header, Certificate Status (22):
* TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS handshake, Client hello (1):
* TLSv1.2 (IN), TLS header, Certificate Status (22):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Server hello (2):
* TLSv1.2 (IN), TLS header, Finished (20):
* TLSv1.2 (IN), TLS header, Supplemental data (23):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Encrypted Extensions (8):
* TLSv1.2 (IN), TLS header, Supplemental data (23):
* TLSv1.3 (IN), TLS handshake, Certificate (11):
* TLSv1.2 (OUT), TLS header, Unknown (21):
* TLSv1.3 (OUT), TLS alert, unknown CA (560):
* SSL certificate problem: unable to get local issuer certificate
* Closing connection 0
curl: (60) SSL certificate problem: unable to get local issuer certificate
More details here: https://curl.se/docs/sslcerts.html

curl failed to verify the legitimacy of the server and therefore could not
establish a secure connection to it. To learn more about this situation and
how to fix it, please visit the web page mentioned above.


The root CA is in my ca-certificates.crt file, so I am not sure what is going on yet.


The bad Certificate is on the Server side so unless you are a MilkyWay Admin you can't fix it, give them time
12) Questions and Answers : Getting started : Wrong user data at the new MilkyWay@home-Server (Message 76577)
Posted 24 days ago by Profile mikey
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Seems my previous user data wasn´t migrated correctly.
On the "old" website I can still log on with my current user data. But on milkyway-new....... it seems my account isn´t there.....

I´d appreciate your assistance....

Thanks,
Joachim from Germany


They are still recovering from the Server update and stats is one of the areas that need fixing.
13) Message boards : Number crunching : Download issues with a GPU type selected (Message 76576)
Posted 24 days ago by Profile mikey
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It’s that time of year again where I startup a number of new machines using BOINC, where I’m OK with the additional ambient heating. I installed BOINC on a machine that has an Intel motherboard GPU (Raptor Lake-H/P/PX 80/96E) and a 13th gen Intel Core i7-13700H CPU (more issues in another thread).

The problem is this… Milkway will NOT download work units if any non-Intel GPU’s are selected in the preferences. Disabling GPU work units in the Milkway preferences does NOT help.

The work-around was to remove check marks from both Nvidea and AMD GPU’s and then reconnect and download CPU work units. This is OK for now but more functionality is needed for my other machines that do have Nvidea GPU’s. Ideally, this would be handled with separate preferences by specific machine. Unfortunately, this does not seem to be an available option in BOINC.


MilkyWay NO LONGER HAS any gpu tasks to give out so selecting any gpu option is immaterial. They stopped them a few months ago and ONLY give out cpu tasks right now.
14) Message boards : Number crunching : Thread to report issues after server migration (Message 76566)
Posted 25 days ago by Profile mikey
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Thank you for everyone working on the connection issue with MilkyWay@home. I have a couple Boinc processes happening on Linux (ubuntu, ubuntu server) and they are all experiencing the same issue. I removed the MilkyWay@home connection, tried to reconnect (or add new project), and I have tried with both the -new address and the old one. All attempts result in "Failed to connect, try again later". I am aware of the issue with certificates, and I am patient in waiting for the solution.

Someone on our Discord Server asked if there was a problem connecting and I gave them a link to this thread.

I look forward to a solution and I am willing to try to connect whenever you want to try to see if a solution works.

Cheers and keep up the good work.


The problem is a screwed up Certificate on the Server side and the IT guys come back to work on Monday and should fix it then
15) Message boards : News : Migrating MilkyWay@home to a New Server (Message 76565)
Posted 25 days ago by Profile mikey
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Yes I did
sudo update-ca-certificates
yields no updates

The client, in fact, all of Boinc, is installed by the package manager. Latest version. I even reinstalled it.


The certificate is screwed up on their end not ours so updating our certificates won't fix the problem, the IT guys will be back at work on Monday
16) Message boards : News : Migrating MilkyWay@home to a New Server (Message 76564)
Posted 25 days ago by Profile mikey
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opeSuse Linux Tumbleweed
bpinc 7.24.1 x64
I deleted the milkyway project and changed the url to add -new, i also did an update-ca-certificates
but I still can not add the project. in each case i shutdown boinc and restarted it - nothing fixed the issue for me
Someone mentioned adding 2 certs but, where do they go and what name do i give them?
Is it going to fix this?

[---] Fetching configuration file from https://milkyway-new.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/get_project_config.php
[---] Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
[---] Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.



The problem is on the Server side and until they fix it there's nothing that can be done, the IT people will show up on Monday
17) Message boards : News : Migrating MilkyWay@home to a New Server (Message 76563)
Posted 25 days ago by Profile mikey
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Does anyone have a working answer to this problem ? If so, I would love to hear it.


Wait until Monday when the IT people show up to fix the problem on the Server end
18) Questions and Answers : Getting started : I need help adding MW to my Linux machine (Message 76545)
Posted 26 days ago by Profile mikey
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Hello,
As you all know, it has become necessary to delete MW and then add it back on all you machines. So far, I have done this on 3 machines of various versions of Windows without any problems. However, I have been trying to get my linux machine to add it back and it keeps giving me the error,

Fri 03 Nov 2023 07:04:20 PM EDT | | Fetching configuration file from https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/get_project_config.php
Fri 03 Nov 2023 07:04:21 PM EDT | | Project communication failed: attempting access to reference site
Fri 03 Nov 2023 07:04:22 PM EDT | | Internet access OK - project servers may be temporarily down.

Is there something wrong with MW or is it something else? I've tried it several times over the last couple of hours.
Thanks,
Allen

PS oh ya, it also says, Failed to add, try again later.
Also, on Boinc Tasks, it says Error-184


What they are saying in another thread is that it's a certificate chain problem and the IT people will be back in again on Monday
19) Message boards : News : Migrating MilkyWay@home to a New Server (Message 76544)
Posted 26 days ago by Profile mikey
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That url does not work on Linux Mint.
It does not even get to the login screen.


Have you tried this:

sudo service boinc-client stop
sudo service boinc-client start

Restart your Boinc manager
20) Message boards : News : Migrating MilkyWay@home to a New Server (Message 76543)
Posted 26 days ago by Profile mikey
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Quote:

There is no new version of BOINC Manager available for download.

There is no version to update according to my client. Am I supposed to have some secret signal?[/img]


This pc 7.16.11 GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10210U CPU @ 1.60GHz [Family 6 Model 142 Stepping 12]
(8 processors)

is still using ver 7.16.11 of Boinc

BUT this one which looks identical:
0 7.24.1 GenuineIntel
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-10210U CPU @ 1.60GHz [Family 6 Model 142 Stepping 12]
(8 processors)

is using ver 7.24.1


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