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21) Message boards : Application Code Discussion : optimized app suggestion (Message 8912)
Posted 23 Jan 2009 by Stevea
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Yeah I totally understand that. So far the optimized apps seem to be running nicely and giving good results, which is nice.


Any Window's Optimized Apps working?
22) Message boards : Number crunching : Reverting to Stock (Message 8886)
Posted 23 Jan 2009 by Stevea
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Just keep one version only and do not accept work from other applications that are not official (released by you).


Well thats all well and good, but if I can do 5x the science for the same wattage then I want to do more for the same cost. If I can get an app that works quicker and provides the same output then I want to do more work for the same electric bill.
23) Message boards : Number crunching : What applications will be valid? (Message 8782)
Posted 20 Jan 2009 by Stevea
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What time will the switch be tonight?

I'm running the 0.07 SEE versions right now and need to switch them.

And could someone post a thread on how to optimize a Windows app, there's a whole thread on how to do linux apps, but not a clue for Windows.
24) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 7618)
Posted 11 Dec 2008 by Stevea
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Not quite a stable project yet, don't you think....


Those were my fault, I experimented with a third-party app and botched it.


Oh trying to cheat were we........

and also inline with SETI).


There's that 4 letter word again that you all like to bring up when anything goes against your wishes

Spin doesn't hOf course it's not possible to get a uniform performing client across all CPU/OS settings, but the main set-up (probably Windows on Intel) should be in line.


Oh, cross project parity on ONLY Windows on Intel boxes now... there's parity

Oh and I see that all but 520 of your credits were crunched on non - Windows Intel boxes. So everyone else must be in line but not you....... NICE

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/hosts_user.php?userid=32

If cross project parity is not feasible across all platforms then do not keep picking on the Windows - Intel platform. It is either feasible or it is not, if not, do not keep bringing it up, it's not possible.

Period.

And since this is a stock Optimized app, (reworked and compiled by the people actually doing the crunching here, this is Open Source is it not) lets start comparing the credits to SETI's opto app shall we. Not the stock SETI app.

And one more point, since you are not active in this project at this time, why must you worry so much? The only answer is it is stepping on your holy grail, the DA and SETI stock client standards. Which must not be allowed to have even 1 more credit per hr that the stock SETI app.

Just forget that more actual science has been done here in the last 3 months that the previous 9 months of the project. (this is still Beta is it not) How about giving the project's personal some time to work the bugs out in all the apps before you point out 2 that gave you 108 cr per hr and run around saying the sky is falling.

This picking and choosing what is and should be has got to stop, because it is not possible. PERIOD.

Deal with it.
25) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 7599)
Posted 10 Dec 2008 by Stevea
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I started again with some testing, and the first ones (0.7) had still quite excessive, but not as much as before, credit values per hour of crunching. What should be on my computer something around 25 - 30 C/h was 72 C/h, better than the 102 before the optimization, and definitely better than the 216 or 108 for Milksops application.

Now I just finished some more tests and ran again in the 108 barrier twice:
57763717
57763587
It's not any optimized stuff from outside programmers, just the application delivered by the project.


Yea. well noticed you did not include these, nice to skew the numbers by only showing the ones you want

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=57581422
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=57536867
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=57581422

or these errors

http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=57571986
http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/result.php?resultid=57572265
a bunch of the last ones

Not quite a stable project yet, don't you think....
26) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 7286)
Posted 2 Dec 2008 by Stevea
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FYI- I am getting ~54 credits/hour with an XP Home quad with SETI optimized vs 48cr/hr with MW


So this is with the app optimized for Intel CPU's, Amd's are going to take a bigger hit than that....

If this is an Optimizes App, the the Credit should be more in line with Seti's Opto app.

If not what is the point in Seti having a Standard app to test the cph against other Projects only to allow an Opto app to receive much higher credit?

If this is an optimized app the credits should be more in line with Seti's opto.

And again AMD's are going to take a bigger hit than the Intel's without and AMD specific compiler.

This could go on and on.... Is it Optimized or not? If so that should set the standard against Seti's Opto.
27) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 7206)
Posted 2 Dec 2008 by Stevea
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Until you can have an app thats stable across all OS's. Why not wait it out for a week or so and see how many errored out wu's will drop the cr per hr. Then make an adjustment.

Your moving way too fast...

Slow down and see what the numbers really are across all O.S.'s.


Yeah, I haven't made any changes yet, but wanted to see how people were doing with the new app.


My Machine's very happy with the 0.6 app.


Yea, well good for you, then you have check pointing, I don't, I still have yet to see the 0.6 app.

Another point to wait, the new app is not even applied across all O.S.'s yet.
28) Message boards : Number crunching : credit comparison to other projects (Message 7202)
Posted 1 Dec 2008 by Stevea
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Until you can have an app thats stable across all OS's. Why not wait it out for a week or so and see how many errored out wu's will drop the cr per hr. Then make an adjustment.

Your moving way too fast...

Slow down and see what the numbers really are across all O.S.'s.
29) Message boards : Number crunching : No Work ? (Message 6756)
Posted 26 Nov 2008 by Stevea
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Same here no work for about 4 hrs now and I do have the run test apps check in my account....
30) Message boards : Number crunching : Peer Review...Seti vs. Boinc (Message 4576)
Posted 31 Jul 2008 by Stevea
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Yes, and I would call you one of the few.


troll'in, troll'in, troll'in

keep them bait's a float'in

get the member's go'in

rawhide

I am really almost done with this crap... won't take much to get me to pull all my boxes, part em out and buy my wife something nice.

The credit police just can't stop......

It's the same thing over and over and over and over and over again and again and again.

Go to any project message board where the credit is .0000000001 more than seti, and you will find the same police saying the exact same things.

They have never got one project that I know of to raise credit, buy have cut a few off at the knees that gave too much. Now a new plan.... The Dr. Knowitall, and the credit police will force their idea of Boinc down your throat like it or not........

nice

If this happens.....I'll be gone... not to be found..... ever....

Just amazing what a very vocal minority can do, if they just keep pounding away.
31) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit Calculations. (Message 4465)
Posted 25 Jul 2008 by Stevea
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For some reason the threads about low credit are not as contentious and do not last nearly as long. But these projects have not been forgotten and if there is a solution, they will be included.


And just why is that?
Because it's not that important to Dr. A and the credit police if a project gives less credit than the all mighty SETI.

Want proof.... here it is: http://boinc.netsoft-online.com/e107_plugins/boinc/get_cpcs.php

Count'em up....

33 projects giving less credit than SETI
13 projects giving more credit than SETI (SETI is included in this group total)

There are more than twice as many projects giving less credit than the all mighty SETI. If the credit police want us to believe a single word that is spoken from them, they MUST get the projects that give less credit than SETI to give more credit. The credit police cannot just keep beating down the few projects that give more, without anything being done about the ones that give less.

Or that has been the master plan all along:
ALL PROJECTS MUST BE EQUAL TO OR LESS THAN SETI WITH CREDIT GRANTING.

Until Dr. A and the credit police show actions backing up what they say none of you can be trusted.
32) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit Calculations. (Message 4423)
Posted 23 Jul 2008 by Stevea
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troll'in, troll'in, troll'in....

keep them baits a float'in....

get them members go'in....

I have never seen a post by one of the credit police that a project is giving out too little credit ....
Guess it only works one way ... down, down, down
Boinc and Dr. A know all please comply, or we will hunt you ... down, down, down
Omg your project is giving out .000001 more than Seti, you must go ... down, down, down

If you really need to spend your time fixing Boinc why do you not get the ^75% of the projects that do not get close to the credit police's 1.000000 standard score to comply. Here's a whole list of projects too choose from:

http://boinc.netsoft-online.com/e107_plugins/boinc/get_cpcs.php

Oh yea all projects must give out credit that is equal to or less than Seti.

I keep forgetting that Dr. A and Seti are the all knowing gods of Boinc.

Q. Why are we not all on our knees, and shaking at the mere posting of the credit police?

A. If the credit police can get the other projects to stop giving out less than average credit, then they would have an argument.
Since they work it only one way they have no credibility.

Your too high... you must go ... down, down, down
Your too low ... much better, do not step on the all wise and knowing seti's toes

LMAO
33) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit Calculations. (Message 4328)
Posted 22 Jul 2008 by Stevea
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Just stop already............You don't like the credits given here...

Go somewhere else!

Since this is a problem affecting the entirety of BOINC, NO.



Easy fix... go do folding@home only 1 project, no cross project problems there!

Leave the rest of us in peace.

PS: Take the sauger with you..

Since you don't seem to like the way the BOINC is supposed to work, I can say the same to you. Go someplace where there is not the problem and leave those of who LIKE the way that BOINC is SUPPOSED TO WORK alone.


Supposed to work according to you and your handful of credit police.
I think its fine the way it is. And seeing as its still the same 10 people complaining, I don't see the point in arguing with the very vocal minority.
So that is my last response you you.

Just go away...
34) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit Calculations. (Message 4317)
Posted 22 Jul 2008 by Stevea
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Just stop already............You don't like the credits given here...

Go somewhere else!

Since this is a problem affecting the entirety of BOINC, NO.



Easy fix... go do folding@home only 1 project, no cross project problems there!

Leave the rest of us in peace.

PS: Take the sauger with you..
35) Message boards : Number crunching : Credit Calculations. (Message 4304)
Posted 21 Jul 2008 by Stevea
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AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


Just stop already............You don't like the credits given here...

Go somewhere else!
36) Message boards : Number crunching : New WU Length? (Message 4141)
Posted 15 Jul 2008 by Stevea
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Why don't you go to the other projects and whine about the credits being too low. Or better yet just start a petition to ban credits period. That would solve all your problems and we could read message boards in peace.

Every message board has your credits are too high crap all over them..... give it a rest dude....


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