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41) Message boards : Cafe MilkyWay : Happy Holidays! (Message 34842)
Posted 25 Dec 2009 by Astromancer.
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Happy Holidays to you guys on the staff who keep our computers with something to do and all the other crunchers :)

Have fun and stay safe!
42) Message boards : Number crunching : 5870 tech help (Message 34826)
Posted 24 Dec 2009 by Astromancer.
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So this morning when I sit down to mess with my system, I look, and my 5870 is happily chugging along at the proper speeds, and my MW RAC is on the mend. No matter how much tech knowledge one can attain, computers will never fully be understood, I don't think. They really do seem to have minds of their own. Thanks for all the help and suggesstions guys, merry christmas!


>.<... Seriously, we don't need AI... Computers are temperamental enough already... Imagine what they would be like if they could think for themselves!!

Glad it all worked out though :) And Happy Holidays to you as well!
43) Message boards : Number crunching : GPU Overclocking (Message 34803)
Posted 23 Dec 2009 by Astromancer.
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All computation work is done on the shader processors. So for NVidia cards shader OCing would be the way to go.

I'd imagine that stock memory speeds would be fast enough especially on NV cards as they don't have a full compliment of double precision shaders like an ATI card does.

For reference a 3870 with a slight OC gets about 38.5k ppd (Actually higher but working with 8 min even per WU is easier to figure out fast). But is way slower in games. Go ATI for full double precision shaders.
44) Message boards : Number crunching : 5870 tech help (Message 34801)
Posted 23 Dec 2009 by Astromancer.
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From what you have to say Zanth it sounds like the card for whatever reason isn't speeding up to 3d speeds when MW is running and is staying at the 2d desktop speeds.

I'd suggest uninstalling and re-installing the driver as something may not have installed correctly and it isn't detecting that it should go to 3d speeds. Or worst case uninstall the 9.12 and put the 9.11 back on if they were running properly as there may be some kind of issue with your setup and the 9.12 drivers.
45) Message boards : Number crunching : Need help getting my 3870 to crunch (Message 34790)
Posted 23 Dec 2009 by Astromancer.
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If you are trying to process both CPU and ATI GPU tasks on the same computer it will not work at this project. The tasks downloaded are the same and once you are using an app_info.xml file you can only use one application or the other, either CPU or GPU but not both.

If you try to use an app_info.xml with both ATI GPU and CPU applications in this project all tasks downloaded will be branded with the highest application version 20 (ATI GPU) and no tasks downloaded will be branded as version 19 (CPU). You can do it temporarily for a batch but it involves a bit of mucking about and is not practical or worthwhile, especially on computers that have 1 or 2 cores.

In some projects if the version numbers are different it is possible to process both CPU and GPU tasks when the applications are automatically downloaded and you do not use an app_info.xml file.


Thanks Tombei, that's exactly what I was looking for.

I was starting to think that something like that was the case when I wasn't able to get it to work.

Guess that just frees up my cpu to run another project or something.


Verstapp - I actually read most of a few threads on the opapps and nowhere did anyone mention that you could only run the gpu or cpu. Which surprises me, I would have figured someone would have brought it up at some point.
46) Message boards : Number crunching : Need help getting my 3870 to crunch (Message 34778)
Posted 23 Dec 2009 by Astromancer.
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Sorry to post two in a row, but I'm not seeing an edit button on my last post?

So I tried to merge the two .xml files in between the <app_info> </app_info> tags and I'm getting an error about having duplicate apps. Didn't give it enough time to see if it would download and start crunching any gpu wu's though. Figured something bad was going to happen and pulled the plug on it. But this could be completely normal.

Tried replacing the cpu app with the gpu app and the wu's didn't do a thing. Which is certainly better than them erroring out and all.

So I'm suspending new wu's and letting the ones I have finish up overnight and then just putting the optimized gpu app in tomorrow morning. And hope that the standard cpu app will run at the same time.


But I'll keep checking this and hopefully someone who knows how to get both to run will read this and tell me where I went wrong.

Thanks!
47) Message boards : Number crunching : 2.8 p4 running 50% crunching 1 wu-why? (Message 34777)
Posted 23 Dec 2009 by Astromancer.
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I'm going to guess the OP is suspending one project as he has a P4 with HyperThreading. I'm not sure if you would in fact get a 10% boost from not running a second unit. I'm thinking it would be less than that.

And has been said, you can't make a single threaded app like the crunchers for BOINC projects use more than 1 cpu. So 54% of two cpu's is roughly one cpu and is where it should be.
48) Message boards : Number crunching : Need help getting my 3870 to crunch (Message 34776)
Posted 23 Dec 2009 by Astromancer.
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Well that would do it...

Am I correct in thinking that I just need to add the body of the .xml files together?
49) Message boards : Number crunching : Need help getting my 3870 to crunch (Message 34774)
Posted 23 Dec 2009 by Astromancer.
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Hey all,

I recently switched to MW@Home as well, the project goals interest me more than most of the other projects out there.

And since I'm seeing that I should be able to use my 3870 to do some crunching I was looking forward to that.

However it's not working quite right... Well at all.

I have BOINC 6.10.18 (Newest I think) & Catalyst 9.11. BOINC says: 12/22/2009 8:24:31 PM ATI GPU 0: ATI Radeon HD 3800 (RV670) (CAL version 1.4.467, 512MB, 544 GFLOPS peak).

And the MW@Home web site doesn't show my card in the GPU section about my computer.


Any thoughts on what I need to do? MW isn't even downloading the GPU client and completes GPU scheduler requests saying "got 0 new tasks".

Would putting the optimized GPU client into the directory perhaps kick start it?

And if that might work, is there a way to run the optimized CPU and GPU clients? Going to guess it requires at least the "merging" of the two .xml files?

Thanks for any suggestions!


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