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Message 72012 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 8:26:21 UTC - in response to Message 72008.  

There are lots of other projects to work on in the meantime.

I'm running Cosmology and Einstein on the CPUs.


I'm here until WCG is back again, they moved to Krembil. I'm crunching for Mapping Cancer Markers and OpenPandemics COVID-19 there, but the WCG is offline till 22 April.

I now got 398 tasks completed on by PC waiting to be uploaded, some of them expire 27 March and 999 waiting for validation on the server. Hope M@H will be OK soon.
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Message 72013 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 9:32:00 UTC - in response to Message 72011.  

This shortage of funding for disks doesn't make sense. Isn't NASA giving you guys money?

https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/team_display.php?teamid=3735
At Seti@home, there were frequently calls for donations to raise money for buying new HDD. Would be an option here as well.
There is a donation page, but it's not linked to on the front page for some reason, it's hidden away somewhere, it was mentioned earlier in this thread by Tom: https://securelb.imodules.com/s/1225/giving/index.aspx?sid=1225&gid=1&pgid=3676

But since NASA is involved in this project, surely they can afford a disk?
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Message 72014 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 9:33:43 UTC - in response to Message 72012.  
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There are lots of other projects to work on in the meantime.

I'm running Cosmology and Einstein on the CPUs.


I'm here until WCG is back again, they moved to Krembil. I'm crunching for Mapping Cancer Markers and OpenPandemics COVID-19 there, but the WCG is offline till 22 April.

I now got 398 tasks completed on by PC waiting to be uploaded, some of them expire 27 March and 999 waiting for validation on the server. Hope M@H will be OK soon.
There's Folding@Home which does Biology (covid, cancer, alzheimers) on CPU and GPU, but it's not through Boinc so you have to run a whole different program, which has just as many peculiarities as Boinc and is a pain to get working right.

Not sure why WCG are taking 2 months just to move a server. Imagine if Google did that and told the whole world they couldn't search for 2 months.
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Message 72015 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 9:36:45 UTC - in response to Message 72001.  
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Other GPU projects include:
Einstein@home
Moo! Wrapper
SRBase (TF app)
MLC@home (nvidia only)
NumberFields@home (nvidia only)
Amicable Numbers (uses around 10GB main system RAM per WU)
Collatz (if you like big credit)

As for CPU projects, take your pick. To find an active project you can go to BoincStats and look to see if there is currently credit being earned on the project


You missed GPUGrid too, they are Nvidia only as well I believe
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Message 72016 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 9:39:54 UTC - in response to Message 72015.  

You missed GPUGrid too, they are Nvidia only as well I believe
Yeah that's annoying. Strange they want to alienate 50% of GPU users. I might one day get a Nvidia for gaming, but until they stop the farce of chained down double precision, I'm sticking with AMD for Boinc. 1:32 indeed, what a farce.
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Message 72017 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 9:42:25 UTC - in response to Message 72007.  

After downloading an updated ca-bundle.crt, since I have an old version of BOINC that had that expired certificate and it wouldn't connect to either, tried Universe@home but that didn't work, got a BOINC warning that it may not have work for my type of computer and after joining it, said no tasks available. Would the 32-bit Win 7 be the issue there?
Next I tried Cosmology@home, remembered a legacy app it had that was supposed to run on 32-bit, and after several attempts where it kept saying either that work cache was full though I had it set to 1+1 days and just have MW@h WUs for a few more hours, or that tasks aren't needed because it's not highest priority project even though I even set it to 2000 with the rest being at 100, after setting cache back to the previous 5+5 days it downloaded a bunch... Problem being that there are too many, just wanted something to get me through the day until this will be fixed, going by what Tom just said.
Ah well... At least the 120 Mb RAM / WU I see used now are manageable.


Climate Prediction sometimes has tasks for 32bit pc's as well, but you will have to check the Application list to see if it's for Windows or Linux or even Mac's.
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Message 72019 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 9:55:25 UTC - in response to Message 72017.  
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Climate Prediction sometimes has tasks for 32bit pc's as well, but you will have to check the Application list to see if it's for Windows or Linux or even Mac's.
I have that running and Windows tasks are issued about once or twice a year. Most are Linux, some Mac, and very few Windows. https://www.cpdn.org/apps.php Look at the Gigaflops on the right to see how much has been done recently on each platform.

At the moment there's nothing for anybody. https://www.cpdn.org/server_status.php
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Message 72021 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 12:47:35 UTC - in response to Message 71790.  
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Connectivity issues again ?
Bob
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Message 72022 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 12:52:33 UTC - in response to Message 72001.  

Other GPU projects include:
Einstein@home
Moo! Wrapper
SRBase (TF app)
MLC@home (nvidia only)
NumberFields@home (nvidia only)
Amicable Numbers (uses around 10GB main system RAM per WU)
Collatz (if you like big credit)

If you care, only the following in your list are NOT listed as independent:
Einstein@home
MLC@home
NumberFields@home

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php
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Message 72024 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 12:55:52 UTC - in response to Message 72022.  

If you care, only the following in your list are NOT listed as independent:
Einstein@home
MLC@home
NumberFields@home

https://boinc.berkeley.edu/projects.php
Independant of what?
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Message 72025 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 13:55:45 UTC - in response to Message 72011.  

This shortage of funding for disks doesn't make sense. Isn't NASA giving you guys money?

https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/team_display.php?teamid=3735


At Seti@home, there were frequently calls for donations to raise money for buying new HDD. Would be an option here as well.


HDDs ????
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Message 72028 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 14:03:46 UTC - in response to Message 72025.  

This shortage of funding for disks doesn't make sense. Isn't NASA giving you guys money?

https://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/team_display.php?teamid=3735


At Seti@home, there were frequently calls for donations to raise money for buying new HDD. Would be an option here as well.


HDDs ????
I would hope nobody still has rust spinners on servers. Although I think Universe and Sidock just upgraded from them.
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Message 72029 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 14:18:24 UTC - in response to Message 72010.  
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32 bit?! I've got a computer which is 12 years old and it runs 64 bit Windows 11.

4 Gb of RAM, no dedicated GPU, so 64-bit would just lead to higher memory use with no benefits, as well as being unable to run 16-bit stuff, and yep, played a couple of 16-bit Win 3.x games on this computer.

On the other hand, ouch, Cosmology@home had that 120 Mb of RAM / task just at first, but the amount increases as crunching continues, seeing it get to some 675 Mb, can't exactly keep it running while using the computer.
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Message 72030 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 14:36:52 UTC - in response to Message 72029.  

32 bit?! I've got a computer which is 12 years old and it runs 64 bit Windows 11.

4 Gb of RAM, no dedicated GPU, so 64-bit would just lead to higher memory use with no benefits, as well as being unable to run 16-bit stuff, and yep, played a couple of 16-bit Win 3.x games on this computer.

On the other hand, ouch, Cosmology@home had that 120 Mb of RAM / task just at first, but the amount increases as crunching continues, seeing it get to some 675 Mb, can't exactly keep it running while using the computer.
Wow, I'd upgrade that to 8GB or give it away. One of mine has 64GB. Three of them will take 128GB. I'm surprised you can get 32bit versions of much software nowadays.
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Message 72033 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 15:44:09 UTC

We just got the repaired drive back, and we're installing it shortly. We are waiting to see if the server starts rebuilding automatically, or if we need to schedule downtime.

While this is going on, I'm also trying to kick the DB and get things flowing again. Hopefully sometime soon we can have the server running normally again.
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Message 72034 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 16:00:22 UTC

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Why haven't my projects been able to be uploaded & get a new set of projects.
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Message 72035 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 16:05:41 UTC

Hi Walter,

We are currently repairing the server, which has been running degraded for a couple weeks after a drive failure. We hope that things will be running smoothly by early next week.

Apologies for the inconvenience, and thanks for your patience!
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Message 72037 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 16:48:25 UTC - in response to Message 72035.  
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Hi Walter,

We are currently repairing the server, which has been running degraded for a couple weeks after a drive failure. We hope that things will be running smoothly by early next week.

Apologies for the inconvenience, and thanks for your patience!
I don't understand this. Was it a mirror/RAID and having one less drive lowered the read speed sufficiently to cause this problem? Why wasn't there a spare? Drives are not that expensive. And are they SSDs or HDDs?
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Message 72038 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 16:56:51 UTC - in response to Message 72035.  

Hi Walter,

We are currently repairing the server, which has been running degraded for a couple weeks after a drive failure. We hope that things will be running smoothly by early next week.

Apologies for the inconvenience, and thanks for your patience!


Thanks for the update, Tom. Looks like it wasn't just a HDD that failed. Fingers crossed.
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Message 72039 - Posted: 18 Mar 2022, 18:43:26 UTC - in response to Message 72037.  
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Was it a mirror/RAID and having one less drive lowered the read speed sufficiently to cause this problem?


The server is in RAID, although I don't remember the actual RAID setup. Losing this drive meant that the server was constantly rebuilding the data from the missing drive off of the working disks, which ate up a lot of memory overhead.

Why wasn't there a spare? Drives are not that expensive.


I guess this drive was the spare, since the server is in RAID. We are now considering purchasing more drives and running in a higher RAID level (thanks to recent donations!)

And are they SSDs or HDDs?


I believe they are HDDs. However, I could definitely be wrong about that. I didn't build the server, so I'm not super aware of what hardware it has besides what I can gather from the command line.
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