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Send message Joined: 8 Nov 08 Posts: 178 Credit: 6,140,854 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Has anyone tried running BOINC w/ the MW ATI app in a WinXP VirtualBox under Debian/Ubuntu? Wouldn't work in VirtualBox, because it emulates a graphics card. The application/drivers need native access to the card to work. ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 82 Credit: 68,542,471 RAC: 43,527 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Has anyone tried running BOINC w/ the MW ATI app in a WinXP VirtualBox under Debian/Ubuntu? Glad I didn't spend a few hours on this last night. Thanx as it was still a slight temptation. |
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Where is the Linux ATI app?
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![]() Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 82 Credit: 68,542,471 RAC: 43,527 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Yea right... not here in windys land. |
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Yea right... not here in windys land. One can always hope.
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Send message Joined: 11 Mar 09 Posts: 1 Credit: 255,593 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Hi, is there any chance that in the near future I will be able to use my 4670HD too? Thanks |
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Hi, is there any chance that in the near future I will be able to use my 4670HD too? Unfortunately no, as it does not support double precision. Collatz will work though. ![]() |
Send message Joined: 10 Oct 09 Posts: 3 Credit: 25,791,047 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Hey guys! Here letting everyone know that I have this working with the 5850 on Win7 RTM 32bit. Let me know if you need anything from me! SinisterMinister |
![]() Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 82 Credit: 68,542,471 RAC: 43,527 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hi, I'm getting about a 28% error rate running the v.20(b) MW ATI app. Stream Allocation : Failed to create Buffer Kernel Execution : Uninitialized or Allocation failed Input streams. Stream Allocation : Failed to create Buffer This buffer alloc error is occurring on two different machines. Both machines have HD4850 cards. One clocked stock 625/993 the other one at 650/975MHz. The stock clocked one is running WindozeXP 32b, SP3 has ~29 out of the last 100 WUs get the error below. The slightly OC'd one running WindozeXP 64b, had ~27 out of the last 100WUs get the error below. Both are running the same app version, both using driver v8.12 and BOINC v6.10.13. Both machines are running 4 WUs at a time. I am wondering if the 4 WUs in parallel is the root cause but would like the developer's opinion on that. I'm currently changing the Win 64b machine to run 3 at a time in an attempt to see if that improves the error rate at all. The error in all cases looks like THIS ONE - da shu @ HeliOS, "A child's exposure to technology should never be predicated on an ability to afford it." |
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Hey guys! Yea, I need your 5850 and the big box its attached to - with 3 pin English plug on the power lead if poss. And your address to send the electric bills to :P ![]() |
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![]() Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 82 Credit: 68,542,471 RAC: 43,527 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hi, I'm getting about a 28% error rate running the v.20(b) MW ATI app. So far running 3 concurrent WUs seems to give much relief. After starting BOINC back up it ran 31 in a row w/o error, then 2 errors, 5 good, 1 error, 2 good, 1 error, 22 good, more good... etc. etc. So last count it looks like about 4 errors in 99 WUs or about a 4% error rate. After seeing the 1st 30 go thru w/o errors I changed the other machine (32b, stock clocks) to only do 3 at a time and it hasn't had an error'd WU since (it's done almost 90). I then reset the clocks to 640/980MHz on the 64b OS'd machine, left it running 3 WUs concurrent and haven't had any errors since but it'll take a bit more time to get to thru enough WUs to declare it under clean. Hope somebody finds this helpful. PS: Now I need an English PUB to celebrate ;-) - da shu @ HeliOS, "A child's exposure to technology should never be predicated on an ability to afford it." |
Send message Joined: 26 Jul 08 Posts: 627 Credit: 94,940,203 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hi, I'm getting about a 28% error rate running the v.20(b) MW ATI app. Don't wonder anymore, it is the reason. Actually I wonder how the error messages can be made clearer than they are. Do you have a suggestion? I would think that if an allocation fails (what reasons for this come to your mind?) the cause is quite clear. But that's only me I guess ;). |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 12 Nov 07 Posts: 2425 Credit: 524,164 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Can't start more than 3 tasks at one time. or Can't run that many tasks at one time. To me that in addition to your wording it would be good. Though I don't have a gpu or deal with any. I think your wording is simple but its meaning is more complex and some won't/don't understand it. Hope that is some help. Doesn't expecting the unexpected make the unexpected the expected? If it makes sense, DON'T do it. |
![]() Send message Joined: 11 Apr 08 Posts: 82 Credit: 68,542,471 RAC: 43,527 ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hi, I'm getting about a 28% error rate running the v.20(b) MW ATI app. I assume that at the point in time the app has ask for some memory for the buffer and the 'alloc' just returns a "didn't happen" message so that you don't know for sure if it's truly an "out of memory" condition or an "out of handles" or something more obscure like that? If so, I think the message is fine. Purely guessing, I am thinking it tried to start before a completing WU had finished releasing it's memory. Or do you really think 4 WUs ate up 512MB? If that were the case I would've expected the error to occur more than it did. I noticed on at least the 8 or 9 of the errors from when it was running 4 at a time, it was always the 4th one starting that got the error. Makes sense. However, once it errors out another starts and runs fine (4 concurrent). In fact I can run 5 concurrent and the error rate doesn't go up much. Does this suggest that if the "getmain" or "alloc" or whatever is done were to be re-done that it might just succeed because some cleanup had finished? Also, does this imply that running 6 concurrent WUs might be fine on a 1GB card or are there other limitations in play here? Oh well, guess it doesn't really matter at this point. |
![]() Send message Joined: 5 Mar 09 Posts: 19 Credit: 102,651,985 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Hello,
I guess this is not accurate anymore anyway, I have a 4770 and Cat 8.12 does not recognize the 4770 I encounter VPU recovery after a few seconds of calculation. I'm on XP32 / CCC 9.9 / Boinc 6.10.13 / 0.20b (tried also the 0.20) anyone for a clue ? thanks |
![]() ![]() Send message Joined: 26 Jan 09 Posts: 589 Credit: 497,834,261 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
Hi super, There are 2 threads on the board that mention the 4770, http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=1109 and http://milkyway.cs.rpi.edu/milkyway/forum_thread.php?id=1187 The consensus seems to be that they're hard to get working. Cheers, PeterV ![]() |
![]() Send message Joined: 5 Mar 09 Posts: 19 Credit: 102,651,985 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
thanks for these, verstapp |
![]() Send message Joined: 17 Nov 09 Posts: 1 Credit: 378,853 RAC: 0 ![]() ![]() |
- problem solved - Finally, GPU working properly. Nice results even after few minutes :D |
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